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191st Ordnance Battalion
60th Ordnance Group

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History (19..-19..)

23rd Ord Co

26th Ord Co

33rd Ord Co

44th Ord Co

6951st CSC


 
197th Ordnance Battalion
19.. - 19..
191st Ordnance Bn DUI
(Source: Messenger, Oct 5, 1984)
After more than 12 dormant years, the 191st Ordnance Battalion was reactivated in a ceremony held Sept 17 at Turley Barracks.

The unit has the primary mission of providing ammunition support to V Corps troops.

CO of the newly formed battalion is Lt Col Malcolm R. McLellan, Jr. CO of the 60th Ord Gp at this time is Col Marvin D. Bailsford.

(Source: Email from John Sheppard, HHC 191st Ord Bn, 1988-1990)
I was a Spec-4-ever in West Germany when the Berlin Wall came down. I was stationed in Mannheim at Taylor Barracks with HHC 191st Ord. Bn., 1988-1990.

I remember taking a bus ride up to the border with East Germany the summer of '88, before the Cold War ended. There was no neutral zone, or even a fence, just red-tipped poles. The East and West Germans walked along the border and, if they had felt so inclined, could have reached out and touched one another, they were so close. Off in the distance, the East had set up a Potemkin Village. You could see it with binoculars from a tower. A sergeant pointed out to me that there was no movement over there other than military vehicles.

It was a different world then.

I'm now a GS-09 working for the Navy at Great Lakes, Illinois.
The purpose of the Mission Essential Task List is to focus a unit's combat mission training on those key essential tasks that are critical to it's mission ...
We were in the rear, supporting V Corps units. In wartime, the way we ARTEP-ed it, we would supply combat units and then disappear into the woods around D + 2 or so.

Our units circa 1989:
HHC - Mannheim, Taylor Barracks. 40 soldiers.
23rd Ordnance Company - Northpoint (a secure remote site, guarded by MPs and not CSGs, where the soldiers received remote pay) This was our largest company, about 125 soldiers.
26th Ordnance Company - Mannheim, 25 to 30 soldiers.
44th Ordnance Company - Baumholder (a new unit for us at the time, we gave up the 33rd Ordnance Company in order to gain this unit) 25 to 30 soldiers.
Plus German Civilian Support Group (CSG) units, which actually did the bulk of work for us. After some "liquid bread" for lunch, things could get interesting.

I can't remember the numbers for the PSPs and ASPs we operated, though they were all close to where the companies were located.

The PSPs contained about 30 magazines (concrete bunkers covered over in grass) each with a King Tut block (a cube of concrete to block the door) in front. Also, a wire loop, like those used by the electric company on the electrical box, was secured by the lock. On duty nights, we would drive out to one of the PSPs and flash a light on each magazine, making sure the wire loop was there, then drive the fence line, making sure there was no fence cutting.

We had the occasional fence cutting, ostensibly by the Baader-Meinhof Gang or Red Army Faction, who were always getting caught in nearby Mannheim. But I always thought it was German or even American teenagers who thought it would be great fun to watch the Americans go nuts searching for communist intruders. We never found anyone inside the fence line after a fence cutting.
ORGANIZATION (1989):

UNIT DESIGNATION

DUTY STATION COMMENTS
HHD, 197th Ord Bn Taylor Bks, Mannheim
23rd Ord Co Northpoint  
26th Ord Co Mannheim  
44th Ord Co Baumholder
6951st CSC Turley Bks, Mannheim  
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