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1st
Signal Group
Communications Zone Europe
Looking for more information from military/civilian
personnel assigned to or associated with the U.S. Army
in Germany from 1945 to 1989. If you have any
stories or thoughts on the subject, please contact me .
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(Source: Email from Jack E. Strimbu) |
I decided to browse through the Internet and see what I could find out about my old signal corps outfit in Verdun, France.
I enlisted in the Army in 1955. For some reason, when I was taking various tests during basic, the E, I, S, H of morse code intrigued me and I paid particular attention to getting as many of the letters during the test as I could. After basic at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO, I was sent to radio school at Camp Gordon, Georgia. After six months, I was sent to Verdun, France.
Unfortunately, after so many years, I don't remember the name of the company any longer. I do recall the words ADSEC and COMZ and our call letters of 9E7A through 9E7D. We had a fixed site in Verdun and three or four mobile units mounted on the back of 2½ -ton trucks. We used morse code, primarily, operating the net at speeds up to 50/60 words per minute using a speed key. There was a teletype section down at the end of the hall from our location in the headquarters building and at the other end of the hall there was a crypto unit, but our radio unit was an entity unto itself and we never really socialized with those guys.
From our fixed site we would communicate with other stations in our net of three other fixed sites south of Verdun. Our outfit was responsible for providing communications for a short TDY period at an MP location in Pirmasens, Germany in 1956. We were also sent to a small POL sub-depot outside of Rheims in 1956/57. The town close by was Mourmelon (?) Petit. Also, we were tagged to provide communications at the Epinal Military Cemetery in 1957 or 1958. We were there for a two week stint. I believe they were exhuming the body of a soldier for unknown soldier designation, but I no longer remember the exact details. We had two trucks at that location. My truck was at a small grass airstrip in Dogneville, where the brass arrived in small Cessnas, and Joe Flores had his truck at the cemetery on the other side of Epinal.
I would like to find out what I could about the unit I was in, who it was attached to and other details that might be available. The only two members of the original company that I have been in touch with are Wickles Dupre, in Houma, Louisana, and Virgil Jurek, in St. Paul, Minnesota. They were members of my team.
I vacationed in France a couple of years ago and took a side trip to Verdun to show my wife where I had been stationed. The caserne is now occupied by the French army. I had a heck of a time trying to make them understand why I wanted to go in and look around until a Captain who spoke English finally showed up at the gate. After I explained that I had been stationed there in the 50s and would like to look around, he was quite gracious. He gave me a guided tour of my building and even the room I had occupied.
In the 50s, there were eight of us in one room on the third floor and we had one large common shower across the hall. Now, there are two soldiers to a room with their own private bath, television, internet connections, etc.. He said they had to have the ammenities in order to attract a better calibre of soldier. The overall location was the same, but the buildings were used for different purposes. We spent almost an hour back in his room just talking about the Army, his and my experiences, etc. When I was ready to leave he very graciously presented me with a shoulder patch of his outfit.
The town of Verdun hasn't changed except for some newer buildings at the edge of town. The center of town was exactly as I remembered it, although the stores are different. Our favorite little restaurant beside the Meuse was now a disco joint for the younger generation. As we left the base, I explained to my wife that we had kept our mobile units about 5 clicks out of town at a location called Bevaux. There were several bombed out buildings that we had fixed up so we could keep spare parts there and work on our trucks. I told her that as you left the caserne, you would drive up a road with a slight upward grade. At the top you would turn left and go down the hill. Right at the turn there would be a small catholic church on the left with a statue of the Virgin Mary with a small concrete fence around it and, no matter what time of the day or night or time of the year, there were always fresh flowers at the base. (I had taken a picture of it when I was stationed there) As we got to the top of the hill and made the turn, there was the statue - with fresh flowers at its base, just as it had been forty some years ago. I am not embarrassed to say that it raised goose bumps on my arms an inch high. I took another picture of it and when I returned home, dug out the picture I had taken in the 50s. You would have thought they were taken at the same time.
Sorry, didn't mean to ramble on. I'll bring this to an end in hopes of receving some information in the future.
Jack Strimbu
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
The time I spent in Verdun, Rheims, Paris and other parts of France and Germany during my tour resulted in some of the best memories of my life. Most all of us had a wonderful tour of duty in France and I found the French people equally friendly and gracious during our visits in the last few years. I don't buy the propaganda about hostile feelings against Americans by the French people. Their government maybe, but the not the common folk. Of course, their will always be that segment of the intelligentia that harbor resentment or try to cause problems, but I believe they are definitely the minority.
I could relate many stories of our tour of duty in France, some quite humorous. Not to take much time, but one such incident occurred during the stay I mentioned at the military cemetery in Epinal. When we first arrived in France, we were young hotshots newly out of training. One of the first things we did was to "rewire" the BC610 transmitters (the big monster with two 100th tubes) that were in our mobile units. We tripled the range we could send and receive morse code and doubled the range for voice transmissions. When we arrived in Epinal, it was toward the end of the month. We had very little money with us, but we did have two fifty gallon drums of gasoline to run our power units. Fortunately, Dupre (who, being from Louisiana, spoke Cajun french) could communicate with the local frogs. We made an arrangement to siphon off enough gas to obtain francs, but not enough that we would run short. To make sure I didn't run short, I needed some from the Flores' unit at the cemetery. We switched to voice, put the transmitter on low power and made the arrangements. (Had a heck of a good time as a result)
When we returned to Verdun, the first question we were asked by the other guys in the unit was how the sale went and did we have a good time. What we didn't realize was that even on low power we were transmitting far enough to reach Verdun and the frequency we had been working on was so close to AFN (Armed Forces Network) that, as improbable as it sounds, we were actually coming across on the radios in the caserne. We never heard anything from the brass about that little incident and, to this day, I don't understand why.
There were many other adventures on trips to Metz, Dijon, Epinal and other parts of France, Alsace-Lorraine, Pirmasens and other parts of Germany, the TDY duty at the little POL sub-depot near Rheims (where we lived in a tarpaper shack with a pot belly stove in a box of sand to keep us wam in the winter while the engineers lived in luxury in a brick two story building, with a mess hall and rec room - pool table and all, at the other end of the depot) and two or three day trips to various parts of France and Germany to "tune our equipment." (We'd put everything on low power or do something else that would result in a 2/2 signal for awhile and when we were ready to return, we bump it up to high power, tune the transmitter or relocate our long wire antenna and come in 5/5).
The nice thing was we had a permanent pass, so if we were not on duty or could arrange our schedule where we didn't have to be around for several days, we could go anywhere our limited funds would take us. With a very young second lieutenant for a radio officer, who didn't know the first thing about what we were doing, we pretty much had a free reign. As long as our outfit received good ratings and passed the NSA visits (which were easy because they didn't have the speed to monitor our net), our company commander, Capt. Nance, never interferred with our operation.
I remember Capt. Nance very fondly because of a favor he granted to me one time in 1958 (an emergency leave to go to Paris to find a little Austrian girl I was supposed to have met in Graz, Austria during a leave in 1958 that was cancelled because of an "alert"). Her Aunt, who owned a restaurant on Rue Montyon, just 30 yards from the Follies Bergere, and a caberet a block away, said she hadn't returned from Graz and didn't want to see me. I didn't "find" her again until two years ago. An interpreter with the Graz police department (bless his sole) located her brother and, through him, I found out she was living in Vienna. I knew we would be accompanying my youngest son (Army vet - NSA) to Heidelberg to enroll him in college and planned a side trip to Vienna. I finally met her during that visit to Vienna. But that, with its beginning in Paris in 1956, is another story.
We explored many many miles of the Maginot Line, underground from Verdun outward, even though there were many signs that said "Danger de Mort" - Danger of Death. It was fascinating down there in those miles of tunnels. We were always very careful about where we stepped and what we picked up. Especially up around Metz where entire areas were still cordoned off with barbed wire and signs of warning of mine fields.
In 1956-58 France, it was still the time when a pound of coffee, a few gallons of gasoline or cigarettes could get you just about anything you wanted and, with the PX handy, we made good use of the barter system.
I've never forgotten my morse code. I guess you never do. This was evident during a visit to see a German foreign exchange student that lived in Bargtheheide (outside of Homburg) that stayed with us many years ago. The occassion was to celebrate the 75th and 70th birthdays of her Father and Mother. It turned out he was a radio operator for the Luftwaffe in WWII. Still knew his morse code! Also, knew all of the old GI songs and did a good job of singing them in english. We had a great time.
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The quarterly 1st Signal Group Commanders' Conference was held recently at Orleans, France to discuss signal matters relating to the Communications Zone.
Attendees:
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CO of 1st Signal Gp |
Col Klar replaced Col Milton D. Weeks in August 1963; Col Klar was succeeded by Lt Col Wilbur D. DePauw in July 1964 |
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Maj Morton L. Blaustein |
275th Signal Co |
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Capt Courtney E. Smith |
256th Signal Co |
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Capt Richard D. Haig |
269th Signal Co |
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Capt Jerry Hansley, Jr. |
313th Signal Co |
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1st Lt Peter F. Cobleigh |
532nd Sig Co |
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| (Source: STARS & STRIPES, April 25, 1964) |
On April 25 1964, 600 members of the 1st Signal Gp will assemble at Patton Field in Orleans, France to celebrate the Group's 4th Anniversary in Europe. The celebrities will include a fly over by 2nd Aviation and 56th Aviation Company aircraft, a parade, a static display of vehicles and equipment of the Group, and a picnic for soldiers and family members.
Activities of the 1st Sig Gp include telephone, switchboards, communications centers, transceiver facilities, high frequency radio capabilities, photo facilities, telephone installation and repair, signal field maintenance shops, film and equipment exchanges, commercial telephone service, the Communications Control Center and the European Data Gateway Station.
Personnel of the unit man communications posts stretching from Sandhofen, Germany to Captieux, France.
The European Data Gateway Station at Maison Fort, under the direct control of the 269th Signal Co, handles data traffic between European points and the US and acts as net control station in the Com Z data net.
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(Source: Email from Richard Martineau, US Army Garrison St. Nazaire, Dec 1963-April 1964; 1st Sig Gp, April 1964-June 1966) |
I was in the Army from 1963-1966. the picture I am adding is of Harbord Barracks, not certain what year it was taken, but a friend of mine sent it to me a few years back...
first of all, I am quite impressed with this site. A friend and former Army Buddy of mine emailed me this site yesterday and it was great checking out some of the stories and names of places that I was once a part of, as with everyone who has been in the service, those memories never fade, and for those of us who were fortunate enough not to serve time in combat, well they are mostly fond memories with dear friends. This is a great reminder of some great times which come back to mind no matter how many years have passed.
I arrived in Bremenhaven, Germany on the USNS Patch in December 1963, and had orders assigning me to USA Garrison Unit, in St. Nazaire, France... with the M.O.S. for Personel Administration. I arrived there to find out that they were deactivating this base, and had but a skeleton crew with no mess hall or anything else functioning, and no one could figure out why I was sent there ??? Well a Capt. Robinson who was in charge at the time made up things to keep me active, and this lasted until April when I got my orders assigning me to Headquarters 1st Signal Group, Harbord Barracks, Orleans, France, where I served until June 1966.
It sure was great to be a part of an outfit where there was actually a reason to get up... No more mess kits and K rations and cold showers while living in a cold quonset hut.
I have only good memories of Orleans, France; the officers in charge, our CO. Col. Depau, and later Col. Myles E. Standish and EXO. Col Erastus W. Roberts and Capt. Robert Williams, and Sgt. Major Marshall were all quite professional. The staff were a great bunch of guys, and we had many French ladies as secretaries who were always friendly and helpful. The atmosphere and people were just great .
I worked in the Message Center from day one, when I arrived, Sp5 Dan Montague was the Message Center Chief, and I believe he left about 8 months later. Dale Thiesfeld was the driver for the Message Center when I arrived there, he would do the runs to Coligny Caserne and the other bases nearby every day with important Classified Documents and pick up and deliver the mail. He took over the position as Message Center Chief until he rotated to the States in 1965, at which time I took over that position till I left, and Roman May who came after me took over my job.
It involved everything from taking care of the mail, cutting orders and running them off, distributing supplies to everyone in our outfit, and to the other groups, like 275th, 269th, 313th, and 532nd Signal Companies, along with another few I can no longer remember. We also had to be cleared for Classified Documents, for it was a busy time with the war in Viet Nam going on, lots of hot info was being sent through us at the time. The Message Center was always a very busy place, which made the days fly by, a great place to work.
Aside from an occasional train ride to Paris to tour the high lights, a few friends and I would pay a visit to Orleans on a regular basis, the people were kind of withdrawn with GI's, I think mainly because this is what happens everywhere when you have hundred's of outsiders, some of which seem to act as if it is their town and they can do what they please... and I heard of a few French girls who had gotten pregnant and the GI just left with her like that, these things did not leave a good taste in the families of those involved. The few who do not behave will always get more attention then the many who behave. But all and all I was treated great by the French, knowing the language helped I am sure.. It was a great experience and I would have loved to be able to afford to go back with my Wife someday.
There was a small town called Ardon about 6 or 8 kilometers from Harbord Barracks, and about 3 from Maison Fort, where we would take walks down a trail through the woods. On our days off, we would go there and enjoy what they called pizza, but nothing like the one's we are accustomed to, they made them with wild game, rabbit, pheasant and venison, vegetables, and mushroom with lots of cheese of course, but you had to eat their version of pizza with a spoon, it was delicous but different. The French food was one of the things that always come to mind when looking back...the mess hall food was not bad, but the French sure knew how to eat, only problem they gave very small servings, no one pigged out there, you would never fill up on what they served at a meal, and it took hours to get all the courses delivered..they made a day of a meal.
I remember on many occasions my buddies and I would go down town and on our way back we would grab some long sticks of bread, hard as a baseball bat and almost as long, a big chunk cheese ( la veche qui rit), and sometimes splurge on escargots (snails) and some wine, Rose, Cabernet D'Anjou, and we would celebrate...made us forget home if we were homesick...
There was a statue of St. Joan of Arc in the center of town, and someone had given her the title of Joanie on the pony, I am sure the French would not have appreciated hearing that.
Thanks for giving me the oportunity to reminisce of the good old days. I will keep an eye on this site from now on, hopefully some of the old friends whom I have never heard from since I left might be added to your site. Thanks for the opportunity and take care. |
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1. 1st Sig Gp 6th Anniversary ceremonies (KB)
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2. Buddies (KB)
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3. Aerial of Harbord Bks (KB)
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1966 |
(Source: Email from Anthony S. Sumida, 1st Sig Gp) |
I am providing a document that identifies as best as I can recollect the units, their disposition, and their missions just before FRELOC. |
United States Army, Europe
Communications Zone, Europe
1st Signal Group |
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Disposition of units, 1st Signal Group in France, 1966 |
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Headquarters:
Coligny Caserne, Orleans, France
The mission of the group was to support COMZ with signal support in the form of telephone, secure teletype, data, and both Microwave and High Frequency (HF) radio communications
Subordinate Organizations and Missions:
Headquarters and Headquarters Company, Harbord Barracks, Orleans, France
256th Signal Company (Spt), USA Garrison, Maginot Caserne, Verdun, France
Telephone Exchange
Minor Teletype Relay
Transceiver Terminal
Microwave Communications
Photo Support
269th Signal Company, Harbord Barracks, Orleans, France
Major Data Transceiver Relay for Europe from StratCom European Gateway (Fort Detrick, MD to Saran, Orleans, France)
275th Signal Company, Harbord Barracks, Orleans, France
Paris Blockhouse. Communications Center and Telephone exchange on Rue Marbuef, Paris, France
313th Signal Company, USA General Depot, Ingrandes, France
Communications Center
Telephone Exchange
Microwave Communications
HF Radio Communications
532nd Signal Company (Svc), USA General Depot, Toul, France
The (Svc) designation was to indicate that the company was a fixed station service unit. The company headquarters was on the Toul Depot, France where it provided for the administrative functions for 8 detachments, two in France and six in the Federal Republic of Germany.
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Detachment A provided secure (encrypted) teletype for Nancy General Depots, telephone exchange services and microwave and HF emergency radio capabilities for both Nancy and Toul Depots.
Detachment B provided the USA Medical Depot, Vitry le Francoise with microwave and HF frequency radio capability.
Detachment C was attached to the US Army Aviation Maintenance Center located on Coleman Barracks, Sandhofen, Federal Republic of Germany (FRG), just off the Mannheim-Saarbruecken autobahn and on the outskirts of Mannheim, Germany. The Officer in Charge for Detachment C also served as the OIC for all 532nd detachments in Germany. Prior to FRELOC, the 6 detachments had 1 Officer, 1 Warrant Officer, 25 Non-commissioned officers and 50 specialists. Initially, the detachment provided secure teletype and emergency HF radio communications for USAAMC. Later, in 1966, the detachment was expanded to provide minor relay data communications connecting to the German Army, Canadian Forces with the British Army on the Rhine, and with the U.S. Special Forces at Lenggries in Bavaria, FRG.
Detachment D was attached to the US Army General Depot at Pirmasens, Germany and had 15 men quartered at Husterhoeh Kaserne. The detachment provided secure teletype, data, and HF communications for the depot which was located along the western border of Germany in the Rhineland-Pfalz region.
Detachment E was attached to the Kaiserslautern General Depot and quartered at Panzer Kaserne. There were only 3 men attached to the depot to provide HF radio communications. The depot was located in Kaiserslautern which is off the main Mannheim-Saarbruecken autobahn about 35 miles west of Sandhofen/Mannheim. Kaiserslautern was primarily a depot for Engineer Corps equipment and supplies and was also the center of the largest concentration of United States military personnel in Europe. Ramstein, Sembach, and Zweibruecken air bases are nearby as well as the main US Army medical center at Landstuhl.
Detachment F was attached to the US Army Medical Depot located near Einsiedlerhof, Germany. There were only 3 men attached to the depot to provide HF radio communications for the depot which was also located along the autobahn about 5 miles from Kaiserslautern.
Detachment G was attached to the US Army Ammunitions Depot located at Miesau, Germany. There were only 3 men attached to the depot to provide HF radio. The depot was also located along the Mannheim-Saarbruecken autobahn about 15 miles from Kaiserslautern.
Detachment H was attached to the US Army General Depot, Nahbollenbach, Germany. The depot is located on the Nahe River in the Eiffel region of Germany. The detachment was quartered at Strassbourg Kaserne and had around 15 men to provide teletype, data, and HF radio communications for the depot. |
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(Source: Email from Harris Williams, 256th Sig Co, 1959-61) |
I served with the 256th Signal Company from Oct 1959 thru July 1961 as a field radio repairman. We had a shop in the Chicago Area and served as a repair shop for the surrounding area such as Nancy, Toul , Vitry, and Etain Air Base.
Most of my work was in the 2nd echelon shop and Ft. Regret radio site and at the other sites mentioned. My shop was located behind the main repair shop in the Chicago Area. I was on the road most of the time and if any thing major needed done I sent it to the 1st echelon shop in the Chicago Area. I do remember Allen Sorenson and Antone Johannes who worked in the main shop. I've often wondered what happened to them as we were together all the way back to Ft. Gordon, Ga.
The army first sent me to Nancy, France, and they did not even have a slot for a repairman so I was then sent to Verdun. I do remember that the MOS 296.1 was frozen in grade and there was no advancement. Before my return to the states I had a pretty serious discussion with Col McGovern about that to no avail. He promised me the moon if I would reenlist for 6 years. I guess I did alright by getting out, missed Vietnam, and went to work for the postal service retiring 37 years later as a Postmaster.
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(Source: Email from Charles Schamenek, 256th Sig Co, 1962 - July 1964) |
I was stationed in France as a radio repairman from 1962 to late July 1964, in the 256th Signal Company. My first 21 months were spent at the "Vatry" base near Chalons-sur-Marne, and my last six months were spent at the Maginot Caserne in Verdun. While going through some very old souvenirs that I had in my attic, I discovered a slightly yellowed copy of the "Advance" newspaper for the 4th Logistical Command.
I have little knowledge worth talking about of the organization, mission and history of the 256th Signal Company. When I was stationed in France, the headquarters of the Company were in Verdun, and I think they had between 7 and 9 "detachments" in other places in Northwestern France.
One detachment was Detachment 6, in the "Vatry airbase", to which I was assigned from April 1962 until January 1964. I was a field radio repairman, at least officially, by training and MOS. But we only had one "radio", which was a 300 watt transmitter and two receivers in a "cab" in the back of a truck; it seldom needed service; when the official company clerk was reassigned and not replaced, I took his place since I knew how to type. At Vatry the main job of the detachment was to provide telephone service, and there was a telephone switchboard there manned by French civilians as much as possible. However, all of us in the detachment had to learn how to use it so that we could fill-in as switchboard operators when no or insufficient French civilians were available, either due to Holidays, sickness, or not enough personnel, or whatever.
I know there was also a detachment in Vitry-le-Francois, and for some reason I think there was one in a place called "Brienne", but I have not been able to find any reference to a US Army and/or NATO site in Brienne, even though I remember that "Hey, somewhere near there was where Napoleon went to military school".
Of course I knew all the French civilians who worked in our small building as telephone operators; there were men and women, although only the men were allowed to work there on the evening and graveyard shifts. When I re-visited France in 2000 and 2001 I was fortunate in being able to locate, and spend time with, three of those French civilians. One was a man named Jean-Claude who lived in Vitry-le-Francois; unfortunately he died almost a year after I saw him. THe other two were women, and when I visited them in France they actually put me up for the night in their homes !! Now THAT I never expected ! Being able to speak some French helped a lot, and we had a good time. Unfortunately, now that I speak even better French, and am retired, my poor health prevents me from returning to France.
At the Vatry base, I still remember the open air ceremonies we had for the funeral of President Kennedy, and also Eleanor Roosevelt. I also remember the Cuban Missile Crisis which occurred when I was at Vatry. I was boiling mad, not because of the crisis, or the fact that we all had to pull guard duty around the clock; I was mad because my guard duty at night consisted of walking around a very small concrete blockhouse with an unloaded M1 rifle, a blockhouse which was well lit up at night and situated in the middle of a field, about the size of a football field. This field was surrounded on two sides by thick woods, and I could not see a thing beyond the perimeter of the blockhouse and its immediate surroundings because of the bright lights on it. The rumor was that there was ammunition and weapons inside this blockhouse. But if any enemy wanted to attack it, they could have done so easily by sneaking up through the woods, and there I was, well lit up by the bright lights at night, at most 50 yards away; they could have picked me off with a rifle shot even if they were not good shots. No way I could have seen them, even if they had been standing up just inside the edge of the woods. In any event, so what? I had an unloaded rifle, and no way to contact anybody to sound an alarm or to call for help.
From January 1964 until July 1964 I was in Verdun, (company headquarters), repairing radios in a repair shop in what was called the "Chicago Area". I walked to work each day through several blocks of the city, just as though I had a regular 8 to 5 job. I enjoyed troubleshooting radios, and having to walk through the town each day to get to and from work.
I was fortunate because I got out of the Army just before the Tonkin Gulf incident, and having put in my 3 years, there was no way I could get drafted. So I missed Vietnam and was instead able to finish college and get a good job. And of course I saw much of Europe on the American taxpayer's dime. The only large city in the world that I know better than Paris, France, is Houston in Texas, which is close to where I live. I've been in New York City, Philadelphia and Los Angeles many times, but I know Paris better than any of those places.
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(Source: Email from Harold Jennings) |
I was stationed at Verdun from Oct 1962 to Nov 1964 and was a photo lab technician at the 256th Signal Co (Spt) photo lab. I know three of the men mentioned in the article (above) about the photo and film section and was wondering in particular about two of them. If you have heard anything from James E. Beauchamp or Michael A Marsh I would love to contact them if possible. I am particularly interested in Jim Beauchamp who was promoted to Sp5 and transferred to Metz at his own request. I played in a band in Metz on the weekends and my friendship with Jim continued even after his transfer. This is the first time I've found anything about the 256th , let alone seeing names of people I actually knew. Thanks.
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(Source: Email from David Askins, 256th Signal Company, 1963-66) |
I was stationed with the 256th Sig Co in Verdun, France from 1963 to 1966. My Signal Company not only operated the Photo Lab mentioned under the logistics section, but was also a battalion-sized company. I was a Commcenter operator in Verdun. We operated a Telecommunications Center serving all the units in the Verdun area, and we operated a minor relay station with detachments at Nancy, Trois Fontaines, Toul, Metz, Vitry Le Francois, and Bar Le Duc. All message traffic from these depots came through our relay.
Our major relay was in Saran, near Orleans. We were under the command of the 1st Signal Group in Orleans, which during my time (63 to 66) was commanded by Colonel Myles Standish III. We also had microwave transmission personnel and radio personnel who worked at Ft. Regret. We had direct circuits to Orleans and Pirmasens. The Pirmasens circuit was intended primarily for transmission of information on the nuclear weaponry. We began using data transmission equipment in around 1965. Our company HQ's was located at Maginot Caserne.
Our barracks were old French Cavalry Barracks from shortly after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870. The stables which were originally located on the bottom floor of the barracks. Being stationed at Verdun gave those of us who were interested in history a fantastic opportunity to see first hand the Battlefields of Verdun, and also to travel to the St. Mihiel Battlefields as well as the Meuse-Argonne Battlefield of the AEF. We marched each year at the American Cemetery at Romagne Sous Montfaucon, as well as in a parade at Epernay celebrating the liberation of that town by the American Troops.
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1959 |
| (Source: Email from Jorge Thompson, 269th Sig Co, 1959-62) |
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The patch on the left was also worn in France perhaps from the 1950s to 1960s when DeGaulle threw us out.
I wore the patch at the 269th Signal Company (rear) in Orleans, France from 1959 to 1962.
Our company installed telephone wires, operated a computer section where we sent information to other army installations throughout Europe where we had bases. We also had a photography section where the men would attend parades and take photographs.
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(Source: Email from Greg Hodgen) |
I just want to thank you for a wonderful site, one that just brought back so many memories of my service in Orleans France with the 269th Sig Co.
I arrived at Harbord Barracks in Sep. of 1962 and was assigned to the Hq 1st Signal Group as a Private. After a taste of Class A uniforms and Brass I applied for a transfer to the 269th replacing Sp4 Morgan as their Company Armorer. Major Jose was the C.O. My supply officer was Lt. Battle. The Supply Sergeant was Sgt. Tushioki Matsuo.
We moved into the field into Quonset huts in the Fall of 1963 and it was cold and desolate. I slept in the Arms Room building which was shared with the Mail room, and hand carried my stove oil. We went through the assassination of President Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis at that location. Both times we thought we were going to war. They told us that if "Ivan" ever crossed the border in Germany he would also be dropping airborne troops on us, and that we had approximately 24 hrs to get to the coast to defend as a Army. Scary stuff to a young Sp4.
The local French did not like us, and going into a bakery to buy something got real cool fast once they looked at our haircuts and shoes identifying us as American GI's. There was still a lot of bombed out buildings there then, as well as machine gun bullet craters in walls alongside the streets, and they were still repairing the church spire at the main cathedral that General Patton's spearhead had shot off to get at German artillery observers. But I really liked the people and their way of life and wish I could have met some and maybe lived amongst them when I was discharged.
I remember the annual qualifications with the issued weapon M-14. The H&R manufactured rifles were unserviceable and jammed constantly on the range. All of them had to be sent to the Ordnance Facility for re-machining. The side rails weren't machined completely to allow the roller bearing to cycle the action. Think of us going to war like that?
I had a lot of friends there such as Mamerto Sarno, Jim Holloway, George Petrowski, Gene Brady, and many others. At this stage of my life I look back and try to remember, but they will be with me forever. |
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| (Source: Email from Kenneth J. Rochon, 269th Sig Co, 1964-67) |
I retired from the Army in 1986. I enjoyed the postings about 1st Signal Group. Here is some of what I can immediately remember:
I was commissioned (ROTC) in May 1964 out of Providence College as 2LT/SigC, attended the SOBC course at Ft Gordon in Jul-Sep, and arrived in France in Oct 1964, assigned to the 269th Sig Co as the OIC COMMZ Commcenter at Coligny Caserne, Orleans.
My Company Commander was CPT Moore, XO 1LT George Durenburger, ISG Yamada.
Operations sections and who ran them as follows:
Telephone: 1LT Peter Fielding
Wire: 2LT Ronald Rausin
Photo Lab: 2LT Marshall Moseley
European Data Gateway Station: 1LT David Klunk
Other officers arriving about the same time as I did but I cannot remember how they were assigned. One name I recall:
2LT Edward Dickson
A warrant Officer ran the unit supply and was assisted by a French National named Ramon Dauget(?)
Capt Donald Hughes, who stayed in the same hotel as I did upon arrival was assigned as CO of the 275th in late 1964, replacing CPT Gene Erickson.
I remember our housing was at St Jean DeBraye. Other quarters were at Olivet and another location down the Loire River on the way to LaChapelle Hospital. The Officers club was called Chateaux LeMothe. Landmarks in town were Joan of Arc (GI nicknames "Joanie on the Pony") and another more obscure statue nicknamed "Dottie on the Potty" because of its appearance, much like The Thinker by Rodin.
COL Miles E. Standish commanded 1st Group. Deputy was LTC Carl(?) Dennis. A Mr Fred Silfies(?) monitored the network and outages. There was a LT Dutszak(?) in S1, a LT Richard B. Gurry in S/3. and MAJ Robert Williams as XO I believe.
Harbord Barracks was originally a hospital. The CO when I arrived at 269th was CPT JAMES Moore. He was replaced by a
CPT James Brown. Two Warrant Officers working with me in the Commcenter
were CWO Clifford Hoyt (security), and CWO Gene Weber (maintenance). The
NCOIC or Platoon Sergeant was SFC Jose Duron. There was also a Master
Sergeant responsible for Commcenter Operations whose first name was
Archie. There were about a half dozen other NCOs, but names escape me at
the moment. Commcenter platoon was large given the three shift
operation. A senior security guru, CWO Jim Holstrum(?) was assigned to
GP HQ, but I remember him visiting our center periodically. I was
reminded in another response of a LTC Erastus Roberts and a COL or LTC
DePau who were there during my tour.
I eventually moved up to the 1st Group HQ and worked in the S2/3 shop,
primarily tracking units and commanders for the purpose of publishing a
pocket phone directory of major commands during FRELOC. This was the
wind-down of US Forces in France when President DeGaulle decreed that
France was for the French. Interesting times.
Units and personnel were transferred to Germany, Italy, England,
Vietnam, and CONUS. A small cadre of 1st Group officers and enlisted
carried the 1st Group flag to Ft Huachuca AZ to replace the 160th Sig Gp
which was Vietnam bound. I remember a few of the officers - Major Robert
Williams, CPT William DeLine, and I (promoted to CPT by then)- but would
have to struggle for names of the others. A MAJ "Bud" Falk was with us
in AZ but I cannot remember when he joined us. MAJ Williams was made XO
when another MAJ replaced him as CO.
That represents my recollections for now. I took a break in service from
Aug 1967 to Jan 1969, after which I returned to AD and eventually retired in
Feb 1986.
I hope there is additional interest in this website. I have maintained
contact with the Hoyts and Moseleys. It would be great to hear from
others I have known and mentioned here, since I have no idea where they
are today.
ADDITIONAL INFROMATION
Shortly after our last communication, I saw a note from a Reid Gantt, who I believe took command of a signal unit from a friend of mine in France. I wrote him a note and rec'd a nice informative reply. Thanks for providing the means of re-establishing contacts and reviving memories.
269th SIGNAL COMPANY (Co HQ at Harbord Barracks with facilities at Coligny Caserne and Maison Fort)
COMZ HQ Command Telecommunications Center at Coligny Caserne.
Switchboard w/Mainframe and Wire Section at Coligny Caserne.
Command Photo Lab and ID Card Section at Coligny Caserne.
European Data Gateway Station at Maison Fort.
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| European Data Gateway Station |
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The European Data Gateway Station, operated by the 269th Sig Co, is located at Maison Fort, France.
The mission of EDGS is to receive, transmit, and relay data traffic from points within Europe and the US; to serve as a data entrance and outlet between Europe and the US; and to serve as the net control station for the Com Z data net. (Communications handled by EDGS is data traffic transmitted in IBM punched card format.)
The Gateway Station was established in 1958 (originally designated as the Orleans Data Transmission Terminal) to handle the transmission of requisitions between the Army Supply Control Center and the Com Z depots. Since its formation, the EDGS has grown into a large, complex section of the 269th Sig Co.
The volume of traffic
between EDGS and the States averages around 800,000 - 850,000 cards per month.
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The primary means of data transmission within the theater is the standard IBM 066 Data Transceiver (1) . This transceiver equipment is half-duplex and can transmit the data of up to 10 eighty-column cards per minute. The transceiver is identical to the IBM key punch machine except for the control panel.
There are twelve transceivers located at EDGS.
All communication lines used for data traffic are terminated in a patch panel. The tranceivers can be used on any one of those lines simply by plugging them into the patch panel.
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All stateside traffic is transmitted and received via AUTODIN, a relatively new system that utilizes high-speed equipment that is full-duplex and can handle up to 100 cards per minute.
(1) Click here to view a PDF copy of the IBM Equipment Summary for 1957. |
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| 275th Signal Company |
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(Source: Email from Christopher Vock, 275th Sig Co, 1963-65) |
Christopher V. at the Blockhouse, 1965 |
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I am looking for information, history and photos of the Blockhouse designed by Speer (Hitler's architect) and built by the Wehrmacht on Rue La Pérouse, Paris, France ( ). I was stationed there with the 275th Signal Co. from 1963 thru 1965. The C.O. at the time was Lt. Tellier. The building was finally dynamited in the mid-seventies and was repalced by a glass admin building.
Some facts I learned about the Blockhouse:
- It was used as a backdrop in the 1964-66 film "Is Paris Burning ?" with Gerte Frobe (Goldfinger) as Gen. Dieter von Choltitz. It can also be seen in period B&W news-reels (Wehrmacht troops coming out with their hands-up).
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- There was a secret tunnel built by slave laborers to the Hotel Crillon and other hotels?
- It was the most bomb proof bunker in the world until after the war (designed by Speer).
- It was my office in 1964-65 (prior to that I was stationed at Harbord Barracks, Orleans). I was an SP/4 company armorer with supply duties, i.e local purchase (I spoke fluent french).
- After the war the French tried to destroy this "eyesore", but they could not. They asked the US Army to do it, same story; so they "rented" the blockhouse to the US Govt. It was only in the late 1970's that they dynamited the entire bldg. If you go there today you can see the pitmarks on the stone façade of the opposite 19th century bldgs.
- Apart from us (275th Signal Co.) there was a SOFTE office and WHCA office (White House Communications Agency) at Via rue Lapérouse; we were a 5 minute walk from the Majestic Hotel (Ave. Kléber) (which was) also a Wehrmacht HQ and not far from the Gestapo HQ (torture cells etc.) |
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| 313th Signal Company |
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(Source: Email from Barry J. Fox, Det A, 313th Sig Co, Poitiers, April 1966 - January 1967) |
I was just nineteen and two months old when I arrived at our company HQ in Ingrandes. I was an 05C radio teletype operator. I had spent the previous three months at Fort Gordon, GA, so was thrilled to finally get to somewhere more modern. Upon arriving, I was told that I would be assigned to Detachment A at Poitiers. That’s one of the truly great things which happened to me in my life. Caserne Aboville sits on a hill to the east of the small city of Poitiers. On foot, the quickest way to town was to walk down about 200 stairs!
Detachment A was composed of about fifty men. The commanding officer was CWO Earl K. Osborne. As the story goes, he had been General MacArthur’s personal photographer during the Korean War. Like Ingrandes, we had a communications center, where over a third of our people worked, a telephone exchange, a photo lab, microwave radio station, and one AN/GRC-26 HF radio teletype van. While I was there, 4/3/1966-1/27/1967, there were about 200 people working at Caserne Aboville. It was truly like a very small town.
Detachment A was unique because of the detachment commander. Having been an enlisted man, he understood us pretty well. He was like a strict, but very fair father figure. He even smoked a pipe! He expected clean barracks, shined boots and brass, but was rather lax about haircuts. His hair was pretty long for the Army. If you conformed, you got to stay at Poitiers. If you didn’t, and there were very few who were dumb enough to transgress, you were immediately shipped out! It was easily the happiest unit in which I ever served. On the rare occasions that we had to go to Ingrandes, to get our 2½-ton truck serviced, we entered the dark side of the moon! Our company HQ was a very unhappy place. Ingrandes looked either like a U.S. Army base or a concentration camp. The first sergeant was a terror and morale was very low. We couldn’t wait to get back to Poitiers. In November of 1967, Colonel Miles Standish, commanding officer of the 1st Signal Group, decided to inspect all five signal companies, and their detachments, in the group. We had always had weekends off, since I arrived in Poitiers, but the inspection meant that we had to work a half day on Saturdays to get ready for the inspection. We also had to get extra short haircuts. When the big day came, Detachment A was ready. The 313th Signal Company came out #1 in the inspection, and Detachment A came out number one in the company. Our reward was that many of us were sent to a new base in the north of England. Close to half of our detachment made it to Burtonwood, England. Ingrandes eventually contributed a few people as well, but they were a totally different breed from our Detachment A crowd. All were draftees, and I remember how glad I was to see them rotate home. It’s funny what a good commander, fair treatment, and a beautiful city could create.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
My AN/GRC-26 was just a back-up for the comm center. In the eight months I was there the comm center only went down twice. Because we actually only sent messages two days out of eight months, I don't recall where the messages were going. Our radio rig was on the 1st Signal Group net, so we had our net control station in Orleans. All we ever did was to make hourly checks with Orleans. When we had an alert, we had to contact them too.
The problem is that the French knew about the alerts so their radio unit in Poitiers used to jam our transmissions during alerts. It was very frustrating. I recall that the French Air Force used to buzz our base as well. We sat high on a hill, so it was easy for them. We didn't exactly feel welcome!
I joined the Army because I thought the Navy drafted. I lived in San Diego and knew that sailors were really looked down on here, so it's ironic that the French treated us that way. I used to buy my civilian clothes from Sears and Wards catalogs, since I was into mod fashion and didn't want to look like a soldier who bought his polyester clothes at the PX. Because I dressed differently, and had rather long hair for the Army, the people downtown usually asked me if I was English or German. It was only the rare occasions when I had to be in uniform that I got the dark looks.
Yes, the 313th had several detachments. John Runion, from the Caserne Aboville Group, was promoted to buck sergeant and sent to be detachment commander of St. Nazaire. I know that they had a telephone exchange and an AN/GRC-26 radio teletype rig.
When I arrived, in April of 1966, Braconne had just closed. They sent the signal people there back to 313th HQ in Ingrandes.
The 313th still had an active detachment in Captieux, which was down by the Spanish border.
Those are the only detachments I can think of.
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| 532nd Signal Company |
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(Source: STARS & STRIPES, February 18, 1964) |
The Signal Field Maintenance Shop of the 532nd Sig Co at Croix Chapeau Depot was recently moved to Chalons Installation. A small annex was retained at Croix Chapeau.
The shop provides third and fourth echelon repair services for all types of signal equipment for units located in southwestern France.
The main shop retains its mobile repair capability for meeting emergency repair commitments and providing on-the-spot technical inspections. Other services provided by the main shop include repair of radio, teletype, and telephone instruments; repair of aviation equipment and generators; and maintenance of church organs at post chapels. The shop will also continue to repair dependent school equipment (motion picture projectors, tape recorders, etc.) within its capabilities.
The annex at Croix Chapeau will provide radar maintenance and repair services for the Port Area Command at La Rochelle, Rochefort and St. Nazaire.
The Chalons Signal Field Maint Shop will work in cooperation with the 313th Sig Co at Poitiers. |
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| (Source: Email from Curtis Burge) |
| Well thank you for the website concerning my old outfit. Quite proud of that.
Got drafted in May of 1964 when so many were burning their draft cards and skipping to Canada. Did hard basic at Ft Leonard Wood, Mo and was subsequently sent to the 2nd Armored Divn 142nd Signal Company at Ft Hood, Tx. Did not have any AIT or
signal school training yet, so I did rotten ass details and KP and guard duty for about a month or six weeks. Finally I was sent to the NCO academy at Ft Hood to the CW operators course (I was a mere E2).
Prior to being drafted I was a railroad telegrapher and also worked teletypes on the railway to be exact.. Hired out on the old Great Northern Railway at the age of 16. I aced the radio school at Ft Hood. Very soon afterwards, after a brutal 16 hours on KP, stopped by the orderly room to see if I had any mail. All I heard was "Hey man, you are going overseas".. Cool.
To make a memory or a long story short.. Did the troop ship thing (USNS UPSHUR), then a troop train from Bremerhaven to Metz.
Got rescued by Cpl Dobbs
at the Metz depot, a 3/4 ton I think. I wound up in Toul as a member of the 532nd Signal Company.
Did about 10 days in Toul then was put on a train to Mannheim. Sgt Clark then sent me to Miesau where I was
mostly on convoy duty running that ANGRY 26 (AN/GRC-26). Got shipped to Pirmasens later, but the website mentions only three
at USAADM - that is wrong... at least during my tenure there, for awhile at least. My self and Andy were on our own.
Then a Comm
center was installed and my two person detachment became a horde of 10 or so. Was sent to Pirmasens in Dec (around Xmas) 1965 and finished my tour there. For some silly reason we had to go to company HQ at Toul every so often in our radio rigs (Deuce and a Half with the Angry 26 Radio kinda sorda van mounted on the back. Cabled secure on the bed of that deuce and one half with big antennas tied down and a large trailer with a large generator behind.
Guess I talk so much but very much like the website.
I am retired from the railroad now, did 43 years with the Great Northern. |
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Related Links:
256th Signal Co (SPT) - a
website dedicated to those who served with the 256th Signal Co. (SPT) from its beginning in Verdun until being disbanded.
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