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78th Engineer Battalion
7th Engineer Brigade

Looking for more information from military/civilian personnel assigned to or associated with the U.S. Army in Germany from 1945 to 1989. If you have any stories or thoughts on the subject, please contact me.


78th Engr Bn History (19..-19..)

Swing Bridges

ADM Pltn

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78th Engineer Battalion History
 
1957 - 1991
78th Engineer Bn DI
 
(Source: Submitted by the Historian, US Army Engineer School via Ms. Bianka Adams, Ph.D., Office of History, USACE, Alexandria, Va.)

78th Engineer (Combat) Battalion Unit Histories (2)

 
(Source: Adjutant, HQ 78th Engr Bn (C), 1989)
HISTORY OF THE 78TH ENGINEER BATTALION

The 78th Engineer Battalion (Combat) was originally organized at Fort Buchanan, Puerto Rico on 29 March 1940 and activated two years later. In mid 1944, the Battalion started a series of moves from Fort Buchanan to Mississippi, to California, and finally, in June 1945, to the jungles of Luzon, Phillipines where they built roads and bridges throughout the islands. After World War II, the Battalion served 8 months as post engineers at Yokohama, Japan, after which they were inactivated. It was awarded the Pacific Streamer for its participation in World War II.

In May 1949, the 78th Engineer Battalion was reactivated at Fort Benning, Georgia. During the eight years at Fort Benning, the 78th assisted the local community in disaster relief and provided engineer support and instruction to the Infantry School.

In early 1957, the 78th moved to Karlsruhe, West Germany (Phillips Barracks) under "Operation Gyroscope" and became part of the 555th Engineer Group. In December 1964, the 78th moved to its present location at Rheinland Kaserne, Ettlingen, West Germany, when the 555th Engineer Group was inactivated. The Battalion motto is "Sedulitate", which means, "By Diligence".

Currently, the 78th Engineer Battalion supports the 1st Armored Division. We provide mobility, countermobility, and survivability support to the Division's 1st and 3rd Brigades. The 78th mechanized in 1988 and will be the test battalion for the Corps of Engineer's "E" Force concept. The 78th and 16th Engineers will combine to form an engineer brigade as part of the 1st Armored Division. In the very near future, we will cease to be part of the 7th Engineer Brigade and sew on the patches of "Old Ironsides".

Another exciting aspect of the 78th Engineer Battalion is our role in the Allied Command Europe Mobile Force (AMF). Company C provides the entire engineer contingent for the AMF and deploys twice a year to the flanks of NATO -- Norway, Denmark, Turkey, Greece, or Italy. The purpose of the AMF is to demonstrate NATO's resolve to defend Western Europe should anyone attempt to invade the minimally defended flanks of NATO. The soldiers thoroughly enjoy their AMF role and the opportunity to travel and make friends with the soldiers of our NATO allies.

Our partnership relationships with the French, Canadians, and Germans is also flourishing. We currently have partnerships with 2nd Regiment du Genie in Metz, France; the 11th Regiment du Genie in Rastatt, West Germany; the 4th Canadian Regiment in Lahr, West Germany and the local Germany reserve unit here in the Karlsruhe area. We have had numerous cultural and training exchanges with each of our partnership units.
 
If you have more information on the history or organization of the 78th Engr Bn, please contact me.


A swing bridge and German patrol craft (ex-US Navy PR24) on the Rhine River, late 1950s.
(Can anyone identify the location?)
 
1957
Swing Bridges

(Source: Email from Gary Shirley, Co B, 78th Engr Bn)
 
I was the last U. S. Bridge Officer for the Rheinhausen Swing Bridge located between Rheinhausen and Speyer. I became Bridge Officer in February 1957 as a Platoon Leader in Company B of the 78th Combat Engineer Bn. We were stationed at Phillips Barracks in Karlsruhe.
The 78th had four swing bridges that they took over from the 499th Engineer Bn. The other bridges were as follows:

-- Leopoldshafen (Leimersheim), Lt. Robert McKie, Company C, Bridge Officer.

-- Germersheim, Lts Robert Pfleghardt, Robert Bening and, I think, Dave Maurer were all Bridge Officers. The Germersheim Bridge was also a B Company Bridge. CPTs Carlos E. Urrutia and Cleatus J. Cox were B Company Commanders.

-- Brühl, the fourth bridge belonged to A Company with Lt. Julian Carnes as Bridge Officer.

I had one of my squads stationed at the Rheinhausen Bridge site. The Squad Leader for the Bridge Squad was Sgt. Robert Garcia of Bernalillo, NM; he lived with his family in Rheinhausen. There were several very good Labor Service fellows also assigned to the bridge. They were diesel mechanics and they also operated the DUKW's. I recall that at least one, maybe more, had escaped from Hungary in 1956. 

I would travel weekly up to the bridge to conduct a partial bridge swing and on one Sunday each month we would have a full swing when a vehicle would be driven across the bridge.

On several occasions a Russian Military Liaison Officer would appear near the site to observe the bridge swing. 

In late 1957 or early 1958 the large steel pontoons were removed one at a time to be taken back into the Old Rhein where they were sand blasted and repainted. Prior to this happening, the 78th Bn. Commander, after Lt. Col. Hall, went up to the bridge site while I had the rest of my platoon down at Patch Barracks near Stuttgart doing some construction work. He wanted to find out how easy it would be to remove a pontoon from the bridge. He found out it was not so easy when he lost control of the pontoon and it went down stream some distance. I was called back to recover said pontoon. 

In December 1958 I turned the bridge over to a German Army Officer. I saw the bridge again in 1966 and 1993 and as mentioned on this site it no longer exists.

I am kind of the "Reunion Officer" for the 78th Engineer Bn. so I am in contact with all of the officers I mentioned except for LTC Norman L. Hall and his unnamed replacement who lost the pontoon. They are both deceased. We have had two all Bn. reunions for the fellows who were in the unit 1957 - 1960. I am planning on another reunion in 2008 but it will only be for former officers. I have e-mail addresses for 19 former officers from the 78th that I served with including all of the former Bridge Officers. I think that is pretty good as we are all over 70 now.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
The bridge squads did live on site. I am not sure what I can tell you about the barracks and mess hall at Rheinhausen. I think that they were two fairly small separate buildings built on pilings and joined by a deck in front. The sleeping quarters I think was just one large room. There were usually about 7 to 8 fellows from my platoon stationed there including the Bridge Sgt. and a couple of cooks.

The Bridge Sgt lived with his family over in Rheinhausen. In addition there were maybe 3 or 4 fellows from the Labor Service. They may have had their own room in the barracks, I can't remember for sure. A couple of my men may have been there for nearly the entire two years  but we did occasionally rotate fellows back to Phillips Barracks in Karlsruhe. As I mentioned before, I went up to the Bridge site weekly, some times driving my own car and sometime going up in a helicopter.

Swing Bridge
Rheinhausen
All of these pictures were taken on the same Sunday when we made our monthly full swing and closure, summer of 1958
 

1. Monthly full swing (159 KB)

2. Almost all river traffic is shut down (207 KB)

3. (71 KB)


4. Bridge squad (174 KB)

5. Vehicles of C Btry, 2-25 FA use the swing bridge during a river crossing exercise (212 KB)

6. Deuce-and-a-half crosses the Rhine (170 KB)
 

 
(Source: Email from Jack Conlin, 78th Engr Bn)
78th Engineer Battalion
- Parent unit constituted 1 July 1940 in the Regular Army as 78th Engineers (Combat)
- Activated 28 March 1942 in Puerto Rico
- Reorganized and redesignated 18 August 1942 as 78th Engineer Combat Regiment
- Regiment reorganized 1943 as follows:
- 1st Battalion reorganized and redesignated 10 June 1943 as 78th Engr. Combat . Battalion
- Remainder of regiment activated 1 Sept. 1943 at Puerto Rico; disbanded 26 Oct. 1944
- 78th Engr. Combat Battalion inactivated 10 April 1946 in Japan
- Reorganized and redesignated 22 June 1953 as 78th Engr. Battalion
- Inactivated 1 March 1991 in Ettlingen, Germany

CAMPAIGN PARTICIPATION CREDIT WORLD WAR II ( Asiatic-Pacific Theater without inscription)

Source = 130th Engr.Brg.mil/history


Main gate, Phillips Barracks - home of 78th Combat Engineer Bn
 

Group photo - Company A, 78th Combat Engineer Bn
1959
(Source: Email from Vincent Romeo)
I was assigned to the 78th Combat Engineer Battalion in Karlsruhe Germany from August 1959 - December 1960.

I just saw your web-site and I was wondering if you had a list of the members of my unit and where they are.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
If the Communists poured across the border, millions of civilians would have to be evacuated further West.

Stationed at Phillips Barracks were the 78th Combat Engineer Battalion and (now I'm not totally sure about the number) the 502nd Floating Bridge Company.

Our "First" and "Primary" mission was to build the Pontoon Bridge across whatever part of the Rhine we were told to span.

The evacuation of millions of civilians would have clogged the roads and the river crossings were key to a hopefully successful mission. The floating bridge companies only delivered the bridges. They didn't have the manpower to assemble them. We also could build "Bailey" and "Heavy Timber" bridges.

Once that was done we were to become an Infantry outfit.

We were told that without reinforcements or the use of Atomic Weapons, the 250,000 U.S. Soldiers stationed in West Germany would only last 2 weeks. None of the platoons in "A" Company were ADM Platoons. We just rotated in and out of the (ADM) details. If any of the other companies had ADM Platoons I honestly didn't know about it and never heard about it. I know that "A" Company acted more like an infantry company when we weren't building bridges.

Along the Czech border, East of "Graf" (Grafenwoehr) we were up in the hills with M-1's, .30 caliber machine guns, a few BAR's, a few .50's, and that was about it, for "A" Company. The Armored units near us were further North around Mannheim. We had a Special Forces camp North of us also.

I'll have to be honest: I was 18 years old at the time and I wasn't concentrating too hard about who was where. The Artillery units: 8"ers were with us at Graf.

Now, I could be totally wrong, but when we were along the Czech border I really don't remember any Infantry outfits near us. We were positioning ourselves as an Infantry outfit near the ADM Details, which I rotated in and out of myself. When the members of "A" Company went into an ADM detail we were just "Armed Guards". We were not trained in the use of the "Weapons". When we received an Atomic Weapon, we, "The Guards", would surround a desolate clearing in a rural area, and a 2 1/2 truck would be in the middle of the clearing. A Helicopter would lower the ADM into the truck and leave.

Four or Five guys in civilian clothes were the "Real Guys" with the responsibility of Detonating the weapon. We had all the Ammo we could carry with orders to shoot to kill anyone who approached us we didn't know. That never happened. We were so isolated that anyone approaching us had to up to no good.

The further North you go in Germany the flatter the land becomes. The extreme Southern part of Germany has high mountains. The Czech border has mountains about 2 to 3 thousand feet in elevation. The communist forces, (If they tried to come into Bavaria), would have to come through mountain valleys.

The ADM Weapons, (I think), would have been very successful there. Further North along the border with East Germany the terrain was much flatter, and probably would have been the area the communist forces would have taken. When I was in Germany - August 1959 to December 1960 - I never heard the term: "The Fulda Gap". We knew the Northern Areas would probably get the full force of an attack, but we were sure they would try to come across the Czech border too. When I was on the Troop Ship coming home, around Dec.28th. there was an American Soldier in the Brig. He opened fire on the commies who were having a mock attack on the border. He opened fire with a .30 cal. Machine Gun. The commies were all in their tanks so no one got hurt.

You could tell when your detail was a decoy. The ADM Weapons we received and their cases weighed around 1,000 lbs.! When they were lowered into the trucks you could see the trucks shake and settle. If it was a decoy it bounced around like a toy. It was serious business and everyone understood and I never saw anyone make light of it. The British Sector was in the North, The French Sector was in the South West, and the American Sector was from the Karlsruhe area to the Czech border. The American Sector was basically the "Baden - Wurttemberg" and "Bavaria" Provinces. South of Karlsruhe was the "Black Forest", and the Headwaters of The Danube.

The Barracks in the Phillips Barracks Post were the Barracks the German Army used during W.W.2! Compared to the U.S. Army's clapboard barracks they were like Hotels.

I hope this info is helpful in compiling the history of the 78th. Combat Engineers.

A Company
Karlsruhe

 

1. Phillips Bks parade field

2. Barracks building

3. Bridging exercise


4. Dump truck

5. In front of company barracks

6. Bridging exercise
 

7. Bridging the Rhine River

8. Bridging the Rhine River
   

1963
(Source: Email from Mike Gabhart, 78th Engr Bn, 1963-65)
Hello, I came across your site and was interested as I was sent to the 78th Combat Engineer Bn and stationed there at Karlsruhe, Ger. from 1963 until summer of 1965 and the whole time I was there we were quartered at Phillips Barracks, not counting the time spent out in the field at Graf.

It's been a long time ago, but I do know that the 78 was still located at Phillips Barracks when I left in the Summer of 1965. I noticed in the account that it was stated that in December of 1964 the 78th moved to its present location at Rheinland Kaserne, Ettligen West Germany when the 555 was inactivated. That may have happened, but I know it had to be later that the summer of 1965. Probably no one cares at this point in time, but just to set the record strait I felt I should at least let you know what I remember, before it fades!

It was a great post, small with an EM Club and Snack bar, also the Mess Hall, and a make shift movie house and I seem to remember some bingo nights some where on the base, I know I won a carton of cigarettes there, and sometimes there were dances with local girls attending, they also showed silent pictures of war abuses by the Germans after the Bingo game.

At the time I am not sure if I liked it so well, but looking back that long ago, I had a lot of great times and wish I could re-live them now! I do remember what my base pay was when I joined the Army in 1962......$78.00 per month!! and after passing all the inspections on the way to the pay line and donating to all the different tables it didn't take long to spend what you had left down town, but you could get a really good meal at the EM Club for not a lot of money.

Anyway, thought I would contact you and let you know what I remember, I left Phillips Barracks in the summer of 1965 not Ettlingen!

(Source: Email from Rudolf R. Boentgen, 78th Engr Bn, 1964-66)
My first assignment as a newly minted LT, was with the 78th Engr Bn (C), then stationed at a barracks north of Karlsruhe, Germany in 1964. Shortly thereafter we move to a station south of Karlsruhe (at Ettlingen) named Rheinland Kasserne.

The 78th also included an ADM (Atomic Demoltion Munnitions) platoon. Before leaving Germany, I was reassigned to the HHC of the 555 Engr Gp (C) as the S-4 officer, taking the place of a Major, Captain, and four (4) Warrant Officers


My tour in Germany started in the 78th Engr Bn (C) at the Phillips Barracks in Karlsuhe as a Platoon Leader. My first company commander was Capt. Mulchary. (He later became a Major General on Schwartzkopf's staff in Dessert Storm.) The battalion then moved to the Rheinland Kaserne in Ettlingen which was about 5 miles south of Karlsruhe.   

We trained in some local areas but the bigger operations were in Grafenwoehr where there was a central firing range for artillery and the tankers. One of my assignments at Grafenwoehr was to dispose of some old explosive (leaking dynamite, crumbling det cord, old TNT and cratering charges). We set electric and non-electric rings for two holes, each filled with more than 100 pounds of the old stuff and "retired to a safe distance".  We set of the electric detonators. One boom, not the two expected. We set of the non-electric circuit. Nothing. We wait the 30 minutes for a non-electric misfire. Then my sergeant and I walked down the road to investigate, he carrying blasting caps and I carrying two pound stick of TNT. During the walk I was imagining the note home from the Army: "Dear Mrs Boentgen, We regret to inform you. . . .".  But, to my relief, as it turned out the two charges had both gone absolutely simultaneously and so we hear only one blast. I was never as scared in my whole life. 

We had an ADM platoon in the Battalion and I went to the Army school for forward assembly operations on ADMs. But I was never actually assigned to the platoon.

My final assignment was to the 555 Group Headquarters as S-4. I took the place of a Major, Captain, and four Warrant Officers. In retrospect, this may have been because they knew that the Group was going to be coming home in a few years. I was personally signed for the four aircraft of the Aviation Platoon.

Then I was reassigned to Fort Benning as an engineer instructor. That was in November 1966


Looking at the main gate from atop of the EM Club, 1965 (Dick Tatina)
 

78th Engr Bn motor pool area, 1965 (Dick Tatina)
 
1965
(Source: Email from Dick Tatina, HHC, 78th Engr Bn, 1965-66)
HC 78th Eng BN June 1965 - June 1966

78th Engr C Bn
Ettlingen

 

1. Looking towards the movie theater






 
(Source: Email from Bob Anglea)
I am a veteran of the 78th Engr. C. Bn. which served in Germany from about 1957 to 1991 when the unit was inactivated.

In 1997, a group of us old guys from the unit when it was stationed at Ft. Benning, Georgia in the Korean period, got together and started having reunions.  In recent years, veterans that served with the unit in Germany have joined us in our bi-annual reunions.

We are planning a 2008 Reunion.

I have many pictures of the 78th's activities from it's service in Puerto Rico in the early 1940s to it's inactivation in 1991.  We would be glad to share these pictures and events with you if you like.  We also have pictures of the Karlsruhe and Rhineland Kaserne, Etlingen period that we would be glad to share with you. 

78th Engr C Bn
Ettlingen

 

1. A Co, 78th Engr (KB)

2. Rheinland Ksn (KB)

3. Rheinland Ksn (KB)


4. 4 unidentified members of the 78th (KB)

5. Grenade drill (KB)

6. Bailey Bridge training (KB)
 

7.






 
ADM Platoon
 
1968
(Source: Email from Ed Hosier, ADM Pltn, 1968-69)
ADM Platoon Patch ("READY" Tab was added after successful completion of a TPI )
 
REUNION 2008

Date and Place TBD

John Shaughnessy and John Baxter are compiling a contact list in preparation for a reunion in 2008.
To be included, please contact John Baxter:

John L. Baxter
4107 Brown Meadow
Katy, Texas 77449
Home phone: 281-859-1887
email: baxter-jl@usa.net



 
(Source: Email from Ed Hosier, ADM Pltn, 1968-69)

ADM Platoon, 1968
  I found this picture taken in front of the building, I think in 1968 just prior to the unit going on aggressor duty in the field and thought you might like it (I’m 4th from the left in the rear row with my team of 5 inline).

 
(Source: Email from John J. Shaughnessy, ADM Pltn)
Happened upon your website... got a bit of a surprise to find MY picture posted... in with that group in the ADM shot. It was a hoot to see that one... If you only knew!... That group was so "spit and polish"... MANY, including myself, often "broke starch" twice a day! That shot was QUITE unique... as we were all "out of uniform" so as to be distinguished on the exercise as "Aggressors"... and we were having a little bit of fun with it as well.

Thanks for posting it...

FYI - I happened to find your site by searching on the "78th Engineers" as I recall... prompted by a message from another "ADM guy" I served with in the 78th; John Baxter. John told me that he was trying to put a 78th ADM reunion together for next year (2008) sometime. That would make it a 40th for those of us who served with John. I gather that he had reached me through my profile on Military.com.

From al I can gather... That pic that Ed Hosier posted has just about everybody in it that John would want to invite to a reunion so it was quite a treat to find it. I'm more than a bit surprised to discover that I'd forgotten many of those characters... and many names still escape me. I knew them ALL so well at one time.

As to telling you about ADM... That presents a bit of a quandary for me... I'm not sure what you'd like to know... and not sure what might still be classified. I noticed that one fella on your site, Gordon Colbeck, addressed that fact that we trained on two weapons systems. As much of this information is out on the web now... I'll share those links with you.

I understand that at least one of the systems we trained with... The SADM "Small Atomic Demolition Munition", has been declassified. The SADM was designed to be backpacked and to be capable of being "Jumped In". The small weapons ALWAYS gave me pause... BECAUSE, If *I* could carry it somewhere, by myself... so could someone else!
http://johnmtaylor.com/foe/sadm.htm

Here they say "Special" Atomic Demolition Munition... But... that's NOT what our TM said. "Special" may have been an earlier designation.

Here's another site with some good information... and some references and a link RE: the "Davey Crockett" system etc. The Davey Crockett was NOT one of the systems that we trained with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_bomb

This site has pics and a good deal of data... Frankly, there is information here that I would not have been comfortable sharing personally... i.e., about yields etc. I cannot confirm the data posted on this site:
http://www.active-duty.com/BackPackNukes.htm

Here is a site with some links to a couple of video clips RE: the SADM. The video quality is poor but the narration is adequate. These videos address a maritime deployment of the munitions and are not necessarily directly related to the training that the Army Engineers undertook with respect to deployment of this munition.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/russia/suitcase/

As you no doubt know, much of the reconstruction of Germany under the Marshall Plan was done with an eye toward tactical and strategic defense planning... such that some dams, bridges and like infrastructure were chambered, or otherwise designed so as to be able to be destroyed quickly and efficiently so as to deny ground to any potential Soviet advance. The tactical nuclear weapons, such as ADMs and those "small" "tactical" weapons designed for deployment on short-range missiles or via artillery were all essentially "ground denying" weapons. From my independent reading on the matter, the best estimates were that it all would have bought us a week at BEST in the face of a full Soviet heavy armor advance.

We regularly trained with, and were supported by other NATO forces... and that's about all I'm comfortable saying about that.

We had 6 ADM teams in our Platoon... Training was daily, exact, and pretty intense. We not only memorized the Technical Manual associated with each weapons system... we did the same with many DOA, DOD, DOE, USAREUR, and NATO policies.

I imagine that it's common knowledge now... but when the Russian tanks drove into Prague in 1968, we were on "High Alert"... some Teams at the storage facilities... codes in hand. The codes NEVER left the safe at the Kaserne... which itself was under 2-man armed guard 24/7... except under those circumstances. Given this "personal" perspective on the mater I have always understood that that event in Prague was EVERY bit as "close" as Kennedy's "October Standoff" with Khrushchev over the missiles in Cuba years earlier!

In that photo that Ed Hosier posted... I'm the guy in the middle with the "Bush Hat" on. I was 19-20 at the time... I turned 20 that summer (1968)... and I was second in command of my Team at that time. My Team Chief was SSgt Canda... the Hawaiian fella two down to my right in that photo... A heck of a good guy... and a 2nd degree Black Belt as I recall).

A sobering thought when looking at that photo... and considering the ages of those fellows... The individuals in that photo were the individuals who actually had their finger on the actual "button" at that time. Each and every one of those characters in that photo had the authority to sign for, and detonate a weapon... subject to the release of the codes... and "The Two Man Rule."

I think that should satisfy most of your "casual" questions... If I tell ya anything else... I'll have to kill ya... :-)

Thanks again, Walter, Great Site... Nice job!


 
(Source: Email from Gordon Colbeck, ADM Pltn, 1969)
In 1969 I was with the ADM (Special Weapons) Platoon, 78th Engr Bn stationed at Rheinland Kaserne, Ettlingen, Germany.  A NATO secret security clearance was required.  We helped fight the "Cold War".
 
From time-to-time, the news stories stateside would say that NATO troops were maneuvering close to (or near) the East/West border.  We were mobile and often responded to alerts on short or no notice.  Let me tell you that a military convoy "upset" some (many) drivers on the famous autobahns.
 
Our Platoon, on a daily training basis, would practice fusing two devices.  Each one a different size. We would train in the basement of the barracks passing through armed security.  As a fail safe, each device was fused three seperate ways.  Of course we trained on simulators.  The actual munitions were kept at a seperate depot facility.
 
Hope this helps you.  I really enjoy your website and if I think of anything else to add I'll let you know.

 
(Source: Email from Fary W. Hanlon, ADM Pltn, 1970-72)
It was with a great surprise that I saw your web page this evening on the 576th Engr. Co. that served in Germany during the past century.  I have looked for years for some information on ADM, and information on men who may have served in the early 1970's at Rhineland Kaserne in Ettlingen, Germany, in the ADM Platoon.

My name is Gary Hanlon and I live in Framingham Ma.  I proudly served this country from June 1970-1972.  First at Fort Leonard Wood, then Belvoir in Virginia, then Rhineland Kaserne in Ettlingen...and yes I spent several weeks in Oberammergau in the summer of 1971 taking the ADM refresher course. 

I look back on that time as time well spent.  And I reminisce about the men I served with, and hope some day to connect with a few.  To date I have contacted only one... a good friend who currently lives in Michigan.  If you have any information on the ADM Unit who served at "Rhineland" during 1970-1972; or have any info on the following individuals ... Harry O. (Bo) Marshall, Roberto (Pancho) Gonzales I would sincerely appreciate you passing it along.  Harry Marshall was from Pittsburgh, and Roberto Gonzales from San Diego.  

It is difficult talking to people who were never in ADM...because they don't really understand what we did...and inevitably I have to say to them..."I can't really tell you...or I'd have to kill you"  That's what we used to say at Rhineland.  Of course with a slight grin on our faces.

My oldest boy 2nd Lt. John Edward Hanlon is with the 62nd Combat Engineer Batallion (Combat Heavy) currently stationed at Fort Hood Texas.  He is 23 years old and also has been through Fort Leonard Wood...so he and I commiserate about the Engineers a lot.  He asks me a lot of questions about ADM, and I have told him that I believe 12E20 is no longer.  Do you know whether or not that is true?


In closing I will say that I sincerely enjoined your web page, and would appreciate any info that you might have.

Related Links:
78th Combat Engineers website - a reunion website for anyone who served with the 78th Engineer Combat Battalion. Next reunion is in Chattanooga, TN in 2014 - no exact date has been set yet.