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8th Infantry Division (Mech)
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Looking for more information from military/civilian personnel assigned to or associated with the U.S. Army in Germany from 1945 to 1989. If you have any stories or thoughts on the subject, please contact me.


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Div Trains

Support Command

8th Admin Co

8th Med Bn

8th S&T Bn

20th Trans Bn

547th Trans Co

708th Maint Bn

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Division Trains
8th Division Trains DI
(Source: STATION LIST, 30 June 1962)
ORGANIZATION (1962):
UNIT LOCATION COMMENTS
HQ/HQ Det Div Trains Bad Kreuznach  
8th Quartermaster Co Bad Kreuznach
8th Medical Bn  
HQ/HQ Co Wackernheim  
A Co Wackernheim  
B Co Wackernheim  
708th Ordnance Bn    
HQ/HQ Co Smith Bks, Baumholder  
A Co Lee Bks, Gonsenheim (Mainz)  
20th Transportation Bn    
HQ/HQ Co Bad Kreuznach  
A Co Bad Kreuznach  
B Co Smith Bks, Baumholder  
C Co Smith Bks, Baumholder  
(1)16th Trans Co (Lt Trk) Lee Bks, Gonsenheim (Mainz)  
(1)23rd Trans Co (Lt Trk) Lee Bks, Gonsenheim (Mainz)  
(1)104th Trans Co (Med Trk) Coleman Bks, Sandhofen  
(1)544th Trans Co (Lt Trk) Baumholder  
     
(2) 8th Admin Co Bad Kreuznach  
(1) In the European Theater, additional truck companies were attached to the Transportation Bn that was organic to Div Trains.
(2) According to doctrine for the period, the Administration Company should have been organic to Division Trains. However, some sources indicate that the 8th Admin Co was a separate company under HQ 8th Inf Div. Can anyone provide details?

 
Division Support Command
8th Division Support Command DI
 
(Source: STATION LIST, 30 June 1965)
ORGANIZATION (1965):
UNIT LOCATION COMMENTS
HQ/HQ Co & Div Band Rose Bks, Bad Kreuznach TOE 29-002E65
8th Medical Bn  
HQ & A Co Coleman Bks, Sandhofen TOE 08-036E65 - Hqs & Support Co
B Co Coleman Bks, Sandhofen TOE 08-037E65
C Co Coleman Bks, Sandhofen TOE 08-037E65
D Co Coleman Bks, Sandhofen TOE 08-037E65
8th Supply & Trans Bn    
HQ/HQ Co Des Gouttes Ksn, BK TOE 29-006E65
A Co Des Gouttes Ksn, BK TOE 10-007E65 - Supply and Service
B Co Des Gouttes Ksn, BK TOE 55-087E65 - Trans Motor Transport
708th Maintenance Bn    
HQ & A Co Smith Bks, Baumholder TOE 29-026E65 - Hqs & Main Support Co
B Co McCully Bks, Wackernheim TOE 55-086E65 - Trans Aircraft Maint
C Co Coleman Bks, Sandhofen TOE 29-026E65 - Forward Support
D Co Lee Bks, Gonsenheim (Mainz) TOE 29-026E65 - Forward Support
E Co Smith Bks, Baumholder TOE 29-026E65 - Forward Support
     
(1) 8th Admin Co Bad Kreuznach TOE 12-036E65
(2) 11th QM Co (AES) Rhein Ksn, Biebrich (Wiesbaden) TOE 10-337E65 - Trans Motor Transport
 
(1) According to doctrine for the period (FM 54-2, 1961 and 1965), the Administration Company should have been organic to Division Support Command. However, some sources I have for the 1967-68 period, indicate that the 8th Admin Co was a separate company under HQ 8th Inf Div. Can anyone provide details?
(2) In an Airborne Division, the Air Equipment Support company (11th QM Co) would have been organic to the Division Support Command. However, the 11th QM Co appears to have been a separate company in the mid-1960s and was not listed under DISCOM. A few years later, as stated in a STARS & STRIPES article from 1970 (see below), the 11th came under the S&T Bn which would correspond to doctrine. Can anyone provide details?

 
8th Administration Company
1960
(Source: Special Organization Day 1960 Issue of the ARROW, 8th Inf Div newspaper, July 1, 1960),



QM Sec
  8th Administration Company

HISTORY - The present 8th Admin Co, comman
ded by Capt Lorence F. Brown, can be traced back to 1943 when the 31st Replacement Company, 31st Inf Div, was activated at Camp Forest, Tenn. The unit served as part of the famous "Dixie" Division throughout World War II, earning four silver campaign bands for the Normandy, Northern France, Rhineland, and the central Europe campaigns.

In August of 1945 the 31st Replacement Company was inactivated at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo. With the outbreak of the Korean Conflict in 1950, this unit was converted and redesignated as the 8th Replacement Company, 8th Inf Div. It was in 1957 that the present name of 8th Administration Company was adopted and the unit expanded to its present size.

MISSION - The mission of the 8th Admin Co is serve as a carrier unit for elements of the Division rear echelon, which will provide personnel and administrative services, including replacement support.

COMPOSITION - The Company is composed of a Headquarters Section which includes the Replacement Section, Supply and Mess facilities, the Adjutant General Section, the Finance Section, the Inspector General Section, the Special Services Section the Judge Advocate General Section, and the Headquarters Unit Personnel Section.

The Replacement Section also performs an important task in that not only are replacements received and reassigned but they also receive necessary processing and equipment. Replacements are given an orientation by the replacement section Commander, Capt Lewis C. Jones Jr., on histories and missions of NATO, 7th Army, 8th Div, German and European laws, and customs, our obligations under the status of forces aggreement and the importance of German-American relations.

1970
(Source: consolidation of comments from various emails sent by Larry Mayland and Ray Goldbacher)
I (Larry M.) was XO of the 8th Admin Co from April 1970 to September 1971. We were a separate company under Support Command and stationed at Rose Barracks in Bad Kreuznach.

(R. Goldbacher) Off the top of my head I would say 5300 is Div. Headquarters, facing the flagpole. Division commander and assistant, chief of staff, Div. Sgt. Maj., S1 thru S4, Provost Marshall, Div. surgeon. I worked in the building, in 8th MI Detachment Counterintelligence Ops, under S2. As did our photo interp. section.

I believe the MI detachment itself was billeted and headquartered in the adjoining building 5303. And I think the small building 5339 was used by our motor pool. 5345 could be the chapel, facing the street. And I believe JAG office was in 5301.

I believe buildings in the back by ball field were all Signal Corps.

This is all pretty fuzzy. I spent some time online looking at old films and photos. I'm almost certain about Div. HQ building, though.

The 8th MI Detachment had small field offices in BK, Baumholder, and Heidelberg, where the division had large troop concentrations. These were primarily for security clearance investigations and document security functions, in addition to the general counterintelligence mission. None in Mainz, which had an airborne battalion, or Dexheim, which I believe had a missile battery. We serviced them from BK.

I can't speak for other division staff. I don't know of any staff sub-units at other locations, aside from those organic to the battalions.

Talked with my former XO and he offers this:
1- we had no field office in Heidelberg, it was Mannheim. My mistake.
2- he says I correctly identified the 8th MID motor pool structure, 5339, but based on its location he believes the MI Detachment was housed in building 5304, not 5303 as I had indicated. He seems certain and he worked there daily. I worked in 5300, the division HQ.


 
8th Medical Battalion
(Source: Email from Terry Landenberger, B Co (ABN), 8th Med Bn)
I was an airborne medic (8th Div, 8th Med Bn, Company B) at Coleman Barracks, Sandhofen, Germany from 1965-1966. I believe Company B was the only airborne medical company in Germany. We were in support of the 509th, I believe. My memory is getting a little fuzzy.

We had the ¾-ton ambulance and the standard jeep, not sure what the military number was and, yes, we used 100-foot cargo chutes to drop the jeeps and they went out the tail gate of the 130’s. We took the deuce and a half with generator trailers in the 130’s also, but were landed at the airport and unloaded.

I went to jump school in Wiesebaden in 1965 and was assigned to Company B Airborne after jump school. I was involved in the drop in Denmark and the next year around Munich.

Your web page brings back lots of memories. First Sargent Bland was our first sarg, a great guy and no nonsense leader.

We had one helicopter jump at a place called Kuberg Hill using the old CH34 copter. The rest of my 13 jumps were out of C-130’s. Great plane and still in use today.

Kuhberg Hill was a miserable place to use for a drop zone, windy and surrounded by trees! The riggers jumped first and were drifted into the trees, we called them wind dumbies. It took two loads of them to figure out the wind drift, it was just border line as far as wind vel. I remember looking out the chopper door and seeing nothing but trees below us.

Again, thanks for the memories.


 
8th Supply & Transportation Battalion

8th Supply & Transport Battalion, Bad Kreuznach, 1965-67 (YouTube video)
8th Supply & Transportation Bn DI
1970
(Source: STARS & STRIPES, Nov 30, 1970)
The 8th Supply & Transportation Battalion is located at Bad Kreuznach and is commanded by Lt Col William L. Foley. Unit stregth is about 500 soldiers. One-third of the battalion is airborne qualified. (The battalion has an airborne forward supply section, an airborne POL section, and airborne water point and an airborne truck squad.)

The battalion has a supply and transportation support mission in support of the 8th Inf Div and attached units. The unit handles everything from M60 tanks to mess hall supplies, jump suits and wastepaper baskets.

The battalion also has a service mission -- it provides aerial delivery and airfield operations. Attached to the battalion are the 11th QM Company and Detachment C (Airfield Support).

Company A - is the battalion's supply section (see below for more details).

Company B - is the transportation arm of the battalion. It has 240 trucks assigned to it

The 11th Quartermaster Co, stationed at Rhine Kaserne near Wiesbaden, is USAREUR's only QM air equipment supply company. The air delivery/equipment supply role includes pachaging, rigging and loading of supplies and equipment for airborne delivery. The company provides support to the Airborne elements of the 8th Infantry Division but also supports other USAREUR units using troop-type parachutes. The red-hatted packers and riggers of the company have USAREUR's only equipment for preparing the heavy-drop loads in an airborne assault. (See below for more details.)

Det C (Airfield Support) -- operates the Division airfield at Finthen.
Company A, 8th S&T Battalion
The Supply & Service Section stocks some 2,200 line items. The S&S Sec is staffed with 28 people who handle the tons of general supplies received or issued for the division.

The section claims that a unit in the division can receive any supplies it requests within 48 hours. If the item is a priority item, the paperwork can be cleared through the Assistant Division Supply Officer and issued immediately. The supply section also handles some 300 food items.

The POL section carries 90 items of gas, fuel, oil and lubricants. The 14-man POL section operates a POL yard that is equipped to provide service for sedans, trucks, tanks and fixed-wing aircraft. In an emergency, the section could also handle helicopters.

Company A also operates five van-mounted erdelators and two air-mobile water points.
11th Quartermaster Company, 8th S&T Battalion
The 11th uses big 100-foot diameter cargo chutes for heavy equipment drops.

When the company packers and riggers prepare equipment for a brigade-size maneuver, they handle about 125 tons of equipment.

The Aerial Delivery Platoon, at Lee Bks, Mains, has a strength of 30 people.

The Parachute-Packing Platoon, Rhine Kaserne, has a strength of 45 men. The shake-out tower at Rhine Kaserne, built in 1959, has become a familiar landmark for the area. (Wet chutes are strung up in the tower and hung for a minimum of 6 hours to dry. The temp[erature within the tower is kept a 240-degrees F) ) Damaged chutes are sent to the unit's small repair and maintenance section. Chutes requiring major repairs are sent to the Nahbollenbach Army Depot.

A good packer can do three parachutes per hour. The platoon can do between 250 and 300 repacks a day. Several inspections are made by senior packers throughout the repacking process.

Personnel parachutes have a lifespan of 10 years and must then be rehabilitated for use as a cargo chute. Each personnel parachute is repacked every three months (if not used) and cargo chutes once a year.

 
708th Maintenance Battalion

HHC 708th Maint Bn formation - during period of switch over of uniforms from
OG-107 to BDU's (around 1983)

E Co, 708th Maint Bn, ready for an alert
 
1970 
(Source: STARS & STRIPES, May 19, 1970)
The 708th Maintenance Battalion has companies and detachments in Bad Kreuznach, Mannheim, Mainz and at Finthen Army Airfield, as well as its headquarters and two companies in Baumholder.
 
ORGANIZATION (May 1970):
UNIT STATION
  Hq & A Company H.D. Smith Bks, Baumholder TO/E 29-025E
  B Company Finthen AAF, Mainz  
  C Company Coleman Bks, Sandhofen  
  D Company Lee Bks, Mainz
  E Company H.D. Smith Bks, Baumholder  
 
Lt Col Richard Nidever is the Bn CO. (Webmaster note: Nidever was replaced by Lt Col David E. Green in July 1970.)

 
1980 
(Source: Email from Gilbert Burket)
I served in the 708th Maintenance Battalion from August 1980 to about April 1983. I was stationed at Baumholder, FRG. I served as the Battalion S-4, and then later as the XO of B Company, which was the Heavy Maintenance Company. My longest tenure was the "operations officer" for something called FAST Bravo, which was the Forward (Area?) Support Team supporting the 2nd Brigade, which was also located at Baumholder. This was an experiment in combat support, taking elements of the maintenance company, the medical company, and the S&T Battalion and creating task force units to support the 2nd Brigade in the field. I was required to draw assets from all three units, field them for an exercise, coordinate with the 2nd Bde S-4, and also report to the 8th ID DISCOM commander. Sound complicated? You bet, but it yielded very good results as far as projecting service to our customers as far forward as possible. I also served as the commander of HLM, 708th (the Headquarters and Light Maintenance Company) for about 5 months, and then finished out my tour as the OIC of the Baumholder Welcome Center.
 

Unique camouflage on 708th Maint Bn HET vehicle during FTX
 
What drove me to write was your friend's plea for information about camouflage (see link). While I can't address the questions he is asking, I thought he would enjoy the attached photo. The yellow vehicle is actually a US Army Heavy Equipment Transporter, typically used to move or recover tanks. About 1981 we were scheduled for a major field problem, I believe against the 3rd ID. We were expected to maximize our camouflage discipline and elude detection from the opposing forces recon aircraft. If you have ever seen one of these vehicles, you can imagine the number of camouflage nets it would take to hide even one of these.... I think we had six at the time. Somebody in our company came up with the idea of painting them to look like a civilian vehicle and then parking them amongst German construction vehicles! We didn't spring this on the DISCOM commander until the exercise was already underway. There was a lot of skepticism at first, but the 3rd ID never figured it out, and never identified our vehicles in their overflights!

Despite our success, one of the last orders from that exercise was to return back to home station "And paint those damn yellow HET's back to Army OD!"

I have dozens of photos around here that I need to scan. Some of them are better than others. (The one with all of the trucks is E Co. 708th the morning an alert has been called. The vehicles are in an assembly area below the 708th BN Headquarters.) It may take some time to get that done in between other projects, so please be patient with me.

One thing I do have available is a number of scans from a US Army recruiting brochure "The Army in Europe"...some of the photos look posed, but it actually managed to capture a wide variety of scenes from around Europe in the mid 1970's (Including the one of the APC with the brown camo and black star).
 

Member of the 708th Maint performs maintenance on a 12th Engr Bn Gamma Goat
 

Capt Dan Roh, CO of B Co, confers with an officer of 3rd SUPCOM and a German soldier

 
1982 
(Source: Email from Dennis Mackey)
I arrived in West Germany in October 1982. I was assigned to the 8th infantry Divison - B Company 708th Maint Bn, Baumholder

First thing I noticed was the NCO leadership was serious about everything. Looking back they had to be. We supported 2nd Brigade and had a detachment in Wildflecken supporting 1st Brigade who had the mission of plugging the Fulda Gap from the south, linking up with 4th ID (?) and 3rd Armored to the north.

2nd Brigade's mission was to cover the rear of 4th ID and 3rd Armored and 1st Brigade. Basically, back then we were to stop an advance to Frankfurt from a Warsaw Pact agressor, i.e. stop them cold. Period .

B Co 708th Maint unit had an small arms repair shop, canvas repair shop, welding & machine shop, an evac section, wheeled vehicle repair section, engineers\line section.

We did alerts at least once a mounth. We had an hour to be on the vehicles, packed with everything ready to head to the Gap.

We fixed a lot of things there. I was a machinist. We went to Graf. We always had a detachment in the field, mostly at Graf and Hohensfels. And don't forget REFORGER. The 1sgt there wanted us to be infantry. With all the equipment we had I wished we were infantry. They made cammo net one time in Graf the size of the Texas.

The last REFORGER I went to we roll in there, I get my net up quick over my 109 van and my 1sgt comes by, looks at it an goes: You have it upside down. After that I said if I stay in, I'm going to be a grunt and screw this net. Then they wake me up at 2 am to fix a stripped out bolt on a Gama Goat's alternator bracket. They insisted it had to done then and there. So, I manage to wake up and fix the thing. I just laid down in the van, its 6 am, and that same 1st sgt is running around in MOPP 4 screaming 'gas, gas, gas.' I'm like, man if he was wearing MILES gear his beeper would be goin off in real quick. Yep, 1st Sgt Egan wanted us to be infantry.

One thing, if we ever had to plug that gap he would have kept us alive.

My next unit was an infantry unit. They can have their cammo net. My old 1st sgt got his wish.


 
547th Transportation Company
(Source: STARS & STRIPES, March 21, 1964)
The 547th Transportation Company (Lt Trk) at Lee Barracks, Gonsenheim provides ground mobility support to 1st Bn, 509th Inf. To be able to perform its tasks of transporting cargo and troops to a staging area or anyplace they are called upon in supporting the airborne unit, the company is equipped with approximately 70 task force vehicles that include 2½-ton trucks, gas tankers, and wreckers.

The company is staffed with 72 drivers and 14 mechanics who work in the unit's motor pool.

(Webmaster note: The Seventh Army STATION LIST for AUG 1964 indicates that there was another LT TRK company attached to the 8th Inf Div at this time - the 544th Trans Co (Lt Trk). This unit was also located at Lee Barracks and probably supported 2nd Bn, 509th Inf. )

Related Links:
8th Infantry Division Association - a web site for ALL former soldiers of the 8th Infantry Division from beginning to end..... to keep the memories and spirit of the 8th Infantry Division from fading into history........
Paratroopers of the 50s -