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Central Army Group
North Atlantic Treaty Organization

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History
 
1950 - 1993
Early version of CENTAG patch
 
(Source: Official NATO website)

Since 1952, NATO forces have been stationed in Heidelberg, Germany when the Central Army Group (CENTAG) plans staff began working at Campbell Barracks within the U.S. Army Europe staff. The activation of the German Bundeswehr in November 1955 resulted in the augmentation of the CENTAG plans staff with representatives from the German Army.

The CENTAG plans staff then formed a separate headquarters in April 1959, comprising military personnel from Germany, France, and the United States. The Supreme Allied Commander, Europe formally activated CENTAG Headquarters on Oct. 1, 1960. (Webmaster note: I believe that Headquarters CENTAG was originally located at Patton Barracks.) Later, in August 1961, Headquarters CENTAG moved to Hammonds Barracks in Seckenheim, Germany.


 

Corps sectors for CENTAG and NORTHAG, 1980s
 
(Source: Wikipedia - Command Component Land Heidelberg)

The Central Army Group (CENTAG) was established in 1952 and assigned to work with US Army Europe at Campbell Barracks, Heidelberg, Germany. When the Bundeswehr was activated in 1955, some German personnel were assigned to the plans section of CENTAG.

In April 1959, the plans section of CENTAG became Headquarters, Central Army Group and was commanded by an American general. It remained at Campbell Barracks and was charged with defending southern Germany against any prospective Soviet attack. It consisted of the German II Corps, the German III Corps, the US V Corps, and the US VII Corps.

In August 1961, CENTAG was relocated to Hammonds Barracks, Seckenheim, Germany and remained there until December 1980 when NATO determined coordination was better when three headquarters were located on the same installation. CENTAG was returned to Campbell Barracks to be collocated with the 4th Allied Tactical Air Force (4 ATAF) and the Allied Command Europe Mobile Force-Land (AMF(L)).

Structural changes began in June 1993, when CENTAG and its counterpart in northern Germany, the Northern Army Group (NORTHAG), at Mönchengladbach, were deactivated and combined to form Allied Land Forces Central Europe (LANDCENT), which was activated in Heidelberg on 1 July 1993.


1955

Organization of CENTAG, 1955 (Walter Elkins)

 
1959
(Source: STARS & STRIPES, August 18, 1959)
Headquarters Central Army Group (CENTAG) is located in Bldg 16, Campbell Barracks, Heidelberg. The headquarters moved to that building from Bldg 9 in February, 1959. The move was necessitated by the ongoing expansion of the headquarters staff to about 100 officers. (In 1958, headquarters comprised approximately 20 officers. At the time of this article the staff has a strength of about 50 officers.) Gen C. D. Eddleman, current CINCUSAREUR, is also the commander-in-chief of CENTAG.

CENTAG is a three-nation (1) ground command that (along with its counterpart in northern German - NORTHAG) comes under the control of Allied Land Forces Central Europe.

The mission of HQ CENTAG in peacetime is to serve as a planning group. It also supervises training during peacetime, especially exercises involing higher-level staffs.

In wartime, the command would become operational and assume control of the US 7th Army, the French 1st Army, and two German corps.

(1) US, France, Germany

 
1960
(Source: STARS & STRIPES, Oct 2, 1960)
On Oct 1, 1960 CENTAG became the newest member of the NATO military command.

Central Army Group was originally organized as a planning staff within Headquarters, US Army, Europe. In December 1959, the command was established as a provisional headquarters and moved into its own buildings at Campbell Barracks, Seckenheim.

In September 1960, the NATO Council of Ministers approved Central Army Group as a NATO military command.

CENTAG, composed of troops from Germany, France and the US, is responsible for the ground defense of an area that extends from the borders of Austria and Switzerland north to an area just south of the Ruhr River.

 
(Source: Report of Stewardship, Oct 1960 - April 1962, Gen Bruce C. Clarke, HQ USAREUR, 1962)
CENTRAL ARMY GROUP

Central Army Group today is a key North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) military command, responsible for the defense of central and southern Germany. The Commander in Chief, United States Army, Europe, is also the Commander of the Central Army Group. Day to day, Headquarters, Central Army Group, functions primarily as a planning headquarters, formulating and coordinating emergency defense plans, and developing smooth and efficient. procedures with subordinate forces for use in wartime operations. During training exercises and war games, the headquarters assumes its operational role. The Commander of Central Army Group has placed great emphasis on the development of the Central Army Group as a vital, potent NATO team.

The Headquarters of Central Army Group has grown in stature over the years until today it is a fully integrated, international headquarters of a NATO military command. In 1950, a small group of United States Army officers was given the part-time assignment of participating in planning for the defense of Western Europe within the framework of the newly formed NATO. By 1953, a small, fulltime Central Army Group (CENTAG) Planning Group was in being in the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, G-3, Headquarters USAREUR. This planning group was made up of United States and French Army officers with staff responsibilities for all general staff functions and the necessary special staff functions.

Chart 1
 
In 1956, the CENTAG Planning Group was broadened with the addition of German Army representation when the Bundeswehr, the German Armed Forces, came into existence. In addition to the members of the planning group, many members of the USAREUR staff also participated in the preparation of CENTAG plans and in exercises. During training exercises, Headquarters, Central Army Group, was augmented with United States, French, and German Army personnel. This arrangement made economical use of the available personnel resources.

Central Army Group Headquarters grew in size and assumed greater responsibilities. In early 1959, United States, French, and German Army officers and enlisted personnel were assigned to the headquarters in significant numbers. The following year, on 1 October, the headquarters was established as a fully integrated, international headquarters, organized along United States Army General Staff lines with the special staff sections appropriate to a NATO army group.
 

Chart 2
 
Concurrent with the establishment of Central Army Group Headquarters on a fully integrated, international basis, two supporting commands were formed. One, the Support Command, came into being to perform the routine administrative and housekeeping functions to support Central Army Group Headquarters, both in the field and in garrison. The other, the Signal Support Command, was made responsible for installing, operating, and maintaining signal communications within the headquarters and between adjacent and subordinate commands.

Until late 1961, Central Army Group Headquarters was situated in Campbell Barracks where Headquarters USAREUR is located. In August 1961, the Commander of Central Army Group directed that the headquarters be moved to more spacious facilities at Hammonds Barracks in nearby Seckenheim, a few miles north of Heidelberg.

Chart 3
 
 
Central Army Group forces are the United States Seventh Army, the French First Army and II Corps, and the German II and III Corps. The Central Army Group Commander does not exercise operational command over these forces in peacetime, but is prepared to do so immediately in the event of hostilities.

In peacetime, the Commander of the Central Army Group is charged with the planning for the wartime employment of Central Army Group forces in the defense of central and southern Germany. Too, he is responsible for coordinating and conducting the combined training activities of these forces in order to ensure the proper execution of the Central Army Group wartime missions. The Commander directs and controls Central Army Group forces during field exercises, maneuvers, and war games.

HQs Building, Hammonds Bks
 
The Commander of Central Army Group has placed emphasis on utilizing all available means to develop a strong, combatready Central Army Group team. As one means of attaining this objective, Central Army Group controls or participates in a number of major NATO exercises each year. These exercises include maneuvers, readiness tests, map exercises, and war games. In addition, Central Army Group conducts and directs its own exercises and war games. Moreover, United States, French, and German Army units exchange officers and noncommissioned officers for periods of time to promote a fuller mutual understanding of concepts, tactics, methods, and procedures. Considerable progress and improvement have been made in training for combined operations.

All Central Army Group elements must maintain a high state of training and operational effectiveness and must be constantly combat-ready to meet any threat. Central Army Group today is a cohesive, powerful force for peace in Western Europe.

 
1963
(Source: STARS & STRIPES, May 1963)
Click here for an article on a special mobile photo lab operated by the 516th Sig Gp during Grand Slam II.

 
(Source: STARS & STRIPES, May 1963)
Grand Slam II Ends; Joint Test Successful

SECKENHEIM, Germany (Special) -- Grand Slam II, an annual joint Central Army Group-4th Allied Tactical Air Force command post exercise, which began May 2, closed Tuesday.

Grand Slam II
involved combat and combat support headquarters elements of the German, French and U.S. forces assigned to CENTAG, commanded by Gen Paul L. Freeman Jr.

There was no significant movement of troops during the exercise, CENTAG and 4th ATAF Hq at Ramstein Air Base said in a joint announcement.

The 4th ATAF, under command of Gen Truman H. Landon, took part in the exercise with Canadian, United States, French and German air units attached.

Aircraft of the four nations flew extensive sorties during the exercise, the announcement said.

Grand Slam II was one of the normal, routine NATO training exercises conducted jointly by CENTAG and 4th ATAF. Its purpose was to test the plan, procedures and coordination of the forces assigned to the two NATO commands.

Top officers of both CENTAG and 4th ATAF agreed that "the objectives of the exercise were successfully accomplished," the announcement concluded.

Grand Slam II, second in a series, attracted many distinguished military visitors from several of the 15 NATO nations to different field headquarters, including Gen Lyman L. Lemnitzer, Supreme Allied Commander, Europe.

 
Late 1963
(Source: Central Army Group (NATO), Hammonds Barracks - booklet issued by CENTAG late 1960s)

 
The Central Army Group was officially established on 1 October 1960 as a fully integrated international command of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, consisting of troops from the Federal Republic of Germany, France, and the United States, designated to command forces from the three nations in a prescribed sector of Central Europe when the Supreme Allied Commander is authorized to assume command of NATO Forces.

The current headquarters staff is composed of approximately 50% German and 50% US personnel. Its principal peacetime mission is the continued formulation and coordination of emergency plans and the development of procedures with subordinate commands in order to facilitate actual wartime operations.

Major subordinate commands of this headquarters consist of two US Army Corps and two German Corps. Headquarters, CENTAG does not actually command these forces in peacetime but controls and directs them during field exercises, maneuvers, and war games that are conducted throughout the year.
   

 
On 30 June 1993 CENTAG and 4ATAF discontinued operations.

 
CENTAG Support Command
 
Early 1960s
(Source: Robert Bertelson)
I'll be glad to try to recall some of my memories of those days. After MP school at Ft. Gordon, I was with the 546th MP Co at Ft. Sill, Oklahoma for all of 1960. 

In December 1960 I received orders to report to Ft. Dix, NJ for reassignment to Europe. There, as everyone was being lined up to be individually assigned a destination (we had no idea of where at that time), I was interviewed by a Sergeant who said that he had ONE special assignment to fill - that he didn't have any information about what the job was but that it was something special in Germany. All he knew was that it was something very special and that because I had scored highly on several of my Army tests and that I had an AA degree that I would qualify. He thought it was something secret and that I would be working somewhere around some sort of Headquarters but that was all the information that he had. 

It sounded sort of intriguing but the real clincher was that he said if I was interested, he would FLY me to Germany that afternoon. I had been listening to everyone's stories about the horrors of the upcoming ship transport to Europe where I would be throwing up, etc for over a week, so I said yes, and sure enough, I was flown in a military plane with a bunch of high ranking officers to Frankfurt that very afternoon. 

There, a soldier from Patton Barracks in Heidelberg picked me up in the company commander's car and drove me to Patton Barracks. Enroute, I asked him about the MP assignment that I would be going to. He said that nobody really knew very much about the MP group, that they did something sort of special or secret and that they didn't have any real association (militarily) with anyone else at Patton Barracks. After reporting in at Headquarters, I was taken to our three story barracks. I learned that our group consisted of 11 French, 11 German, and 11 American MPs. The French lived on the third floor, the Germans on the second floor and the Americans on the ground floor.

Much to my delight and amazement, I learned that we didn't have to stand any formations, etc, and that our only functions were to raise and lower the various flags at CENTAG Headquarters located at Campbell Barracks, just a few miles away. Once a month, there would be a practice alert (usually in the middle of the night) and we would all go to the Headquarters building and set up security for the building and for the "War Room", located in the basement. This was where the Generals would go to conduct their operations in the event of war with the Russians, which in those days, didn't seem too impossible. We each had our own Generals to act as bodyguards for - we had General Clark, the Germans had General Berendsen, and the French had General Mogemot.

In many ways, this was a dream assignment and probably the only one like it in the Army. We had a Lt. from the Headquarters Co. who stuck his head into our barracks about once a month to ask if we needed anything, other than that, it was like being a civilian. We were "supervised" by a corporal who made out the work schedule.  I don't think we worked more than about thirty hours a week; the rest of the time we were free to do anything or go anywhere we wanted. I remember that we all had NATO Secret security status, but other than having access to the War Room, we were essentially body and building guards.

As a Headquarters, there were often ceremonies involving high ranking NATO officers. I have many pictures of some of these - the Americans in dress blues, the Germans in their dress greys, and the French wearing a dress uniform with a white cape. The CENTAG MP's never took part in these, (I didn't even have dress blues), these cememonies were handled by the American MP's that were stationed at Campbell Barracks.

Those were very idyllic times, Heidelberg was a relatively small town compared to what it is today, I was in the Army, but it was almost like I was a part time civilian worker barely associated with the military. In the summer of 1961, I took a three day pass to visit Berlin and, as fate would have it, was in West Berlin in the morning, and in East Berlin on a tour bus in the afternoon of the day the Russians started to put up the Berlin Wall. I was chased back across the border by a East Berlin guard with a sub machine gun after I tried to take a picture of his building near the Brandenburg Gate. I of course had no idea of the bigger picture of what was going on at that time. 

When I got back to Patton Barracks, my fellow MP's were at the War Room and some of us were sitting on tanks in a nearby field waiting for the Russians. After just a day or two, things settled down and we returned to our regular routine just as if nothing had happened. Shortly thereafter, we were relocated to Hammonds Barracks in nearby Seckenheim, but still commuted by German truck to Campbell Barracks to do our routine flag raising and building guarding duties.

At Hammonds Barracks, we had a desk in a building adjacent to the main gate where we did security. We still had no real military structure and lots of time off. I think the reason things were as they were was because the 11 of us always acted responsiibily, got the "job" done and didn't really require any supervision or discipline. It was probably the only outfit in the Army where a SP4 got to know a Major General practically on a first name basis.

I stayed at Hammonds Barracks until November of 1961 when I returned home on emergency leave when my father died suddenly. It was near the end of my enlistment and I was reassigned to Ft. McArthur to take care of my ailing mother until I was discharged.

The only names and home towns of my fellow MPs that I remember are Nick Agosta, Don Ross, Denny Brierton, Don Stebbins, last name Pruitt, a guy from near New Orleans, one from an island near Seattle, Phil Marcus, and a few more that I can't remember right this minute. We were very friendly on and off duty with the German MPs (all of whom spoke english) but had nothing to do with the French MPs, none of whom spoke english, and acted very stand-offish.

One of my friends, a German MP, helped me buy a car and I had lots of time to drive around central Germany. Two years ago, I took my wife to Germany to show her where I had been stationed. I has very disappointed when the civilian German guard at Hammonds Barracks wouldn't allow us any entry for a quick look and even threatened us with arrest if I took any pictures, even of the Hammonds Barracks sign at the gate. I was also disappointed that we could not gain entry into Campbell Barracks at all so that I could at least see the outside of the old CENTAG Command Building. I did get into Patton Barracks only to observe that my old three story barracks was in the process of being completely rebuilt and was nearly in shambles. The identical barracks on either side of the MP barracks were untouched. Very sad, but the rest of the trip was wonderful except to discover that Heidleberg is now a modern city with ugly high rise buildings and that the Hauptstrasse in now a shopping mall with Pizza Huts, etc.

I'll always remember my CENTAG MP days fondly.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
I didn't realize that CENTAG had only been formed a couple of months before I got there, I just assumed that it had been there forever and don't ever remember asking anyone how long that they had been there.

Unfortunately, I haven't had any contact with any of my buddies since I left, probably because I left so suddenly because of my father's death, I didn't have time for any farewells or exchanging of home addresses. After I learned that I wouldn't be returning because of my mother's health, I sent one of my buddies a power of attorney and he sold my car and packed up all of my personal stuff from my wall locker and mailed it to me. I would love to be able to get in touch with a couple of guys that I was particularly close to, but I've never seen any info about anyone with the CENTAG MPs until you. 

Speaking of beer, I'm not much of a beer drinker but I did always have a beer with lunch or dinner at gasthauses in the Heidelberg area along with my wonderful german sausages.  I remember the brand was "Schlossquell" and it was very mild and delicious. Two years ago when I took my wife to Heidelberg for my first return since 1961, I tried to order Schlossquell at dinner in Mannheim. The waitress explained that Schlossquell was a Heidelberg beer and that you could only get it in Heidelberg and sure enough during dinner our last night before leaving, I had a bottle at Perkeo's restaurant on the Hauptstrasse. I've regretted not bringing the empty bottle back with me.

After I wrote to you, I got out my old photos and they brought to mind a few items that I didn't mention in my letter. The CENTAG MP barracks at Patton Barracks was building 114. The Headquarters building for CENTAG at Campbell Barracks was building 16, located on the south side of the parade field. One thing I didn't make clear in my letter was that in addition to the daily flag raising and lowering ceremonies, one CENTAG MP remained at the entrance of the Headquarters building all day (Mon - Fri) until the flag lowering at 5 PM. As I recall, those were about 2 hour shifts, but with 33 of us (11 American, 11 German, and 11 French) to split it up, we only averaged about a 2 hour shift about once a week or so. We were supposed to stand at parade rest, look sharp, and salute any officers that entered the building (which wasn't very often).

I do remember one glitch - many of my fellow Americans didn't like or outright refused to salute some of the German officers that wore Nazi decorations on their uniforms that they had received for, frankly, killing Americans just 15 years earlier. Most of these German officers understood the situation and when they didn't receive a salute, they just ignored it rather than making an issue of it, but I do recall that in one instance, we were told that a German officer had complained about it and that we were told to start saluting them, regardless of any decorations that they wore.

I also remembered that we wore white MP brassards with the CENTAG crest and "MP" in green and wondered if they were still worn when you were there. I still have mine along with the metal CENTAG crest badge that we wore on our left breast. In checking the website that you mentioned, the correct names and spelling of the three officers that we were to individually protect in the event of war were:
Chief of Staff Maj Gen Christian Clarke (US Army),
Dep Chief of Staff Maj Gen Berendsen (Bundeswehr), and
Dep Chief of Staff Brig Gen L. De Montjamont (French Army).

I remember Gen Clarke as a friendly guy that sometimes would stop and chat with me at the door, calling me by name.

CENTAG MP's

 

1. Main gate, Patton Bks, 1961 (KB)

2. Bldg 114, Patton Bks, 1961 (KB)

3. Bldg 114, 2004 (KB)
 

4. CENTAG building, Campbell Bks (KB)

5. Gen Clarke's sedan (KB)

6. Hqs building (KB)
 

7. Bldg 16 (KB)

8. Salute guns and CENTAG HQ (KB)

9. Bldg 15 on right (KB)
 

10. Barracks room, Bldg 114 (KB)

11. Moving day (KB)

12. MP Desk, CENTAG HQ bldg (KB)
 

13. White MP brassard, pistol holster sheath and CENTAG badge (KB)

14. EM Club (KB)

 

15. CENTAG MPs lower US, German and French flags (KB)

16. Ceremony at Campbell Bks parade ground (KB)

17. Ceremony at Campbell Bks parade ground (KB)
 

18. Ceremony at Campbell Bks parade ground (KB)

19. Ceremony at Campbell Bks parade ground (KB)
 

(Source: Email from Bob Chapman, 84th Trans Trk Co and CENTAG, 1960-62)
Hi, I was stationed with the 84th Trans Truck Company at Patton Barracks in 1960. This unit was made a part of CENTAG in 1961 and we moved to Hammond Barracks.

In late 1961 or early 1962, I was sent to Angevillers as part of a CENTAG detachment (from Hq & Hq Co. CENTAG), 7 of us -- five Military Police, one Cook (me), and one driver. I was the highest ranking soldier there, I was a Sp4. We stayed that way for a year, then I left and they sent a M/sgt Wolf to take over.

We were given an old barracks in the far corner of the French compound, and our sole function was to guard CENTAG communications assets. We lived in Angevillers, drew supplies from Metz, and avoided Thionville for at that time there was much trouble with the Algerian population. We all carried our weapons anytime we left the compound, even off duty in restaurants & bars. Carrying weapons lasted about seven weeks.

We spent most of our off duty time in Luxemburg and I would wind up marrying a young lady from Trier, Germany, who was working in Luxemburg.

I retired from the service in 1979, and from all work in 2003. When I retired in 2003, I moved to Florida and one day while playing golf with a stranger, we found we were both at Angevillers, doing the same job. He arrived there one month after I left and went back to Germany. What are the chances?

Went back to Germany in 1966 and wound up stationed at Neureut Kaserne with the 516th Signal Group which was part of STRATCOM. While serving with the 516th, we went on maneuvers both at the Angevillers and the Pirmasens bunkers. I ran one of the consolidated dining facilities as a SSG, got promoted to SFC and off to Viet Nam in 1968. (I believe I was initially with the 72d Signal Bn, part of the 516th.)

 
(Source: Email from Fred Wagner, 1st BG, 30th Inf & Trans Office, HQ CENTAG, 1962-65)
I was commissioned a second lieutenant in the Regular Army in June 1962 out of the Georgetown University ROTC program. I had a two-year commitment in the infantry and after the basic course and airborne school, ranger school, I was sent to Europe where I found myself as a platoon leader in the 1st Battle Group, 30th Infantry, 3rd Infantry Division. That was William E. DePuy’s old outfit and the small unit training we underwent was considerably different than that taught at the Infantry School in Fort Benning, GA. When the army reorganized into the battalion/ brigade concept, I was transferred into Company A, 1 st Battalion, 30 th Infantry, and found myself serving under another future four-star general, George A. Joulwan (Joulwan and I became fairly close in those days and wound up serving under Depuy once again, this time—1966-1967— when he was the CG of the 1 st Infantry Division in Vietnam).

When my two-year commitment in the infantry was up and I was to be transferred into my basic branch (the Transportation Corps), I found myself unassigned and hanging around battalion headquarters. I applied for and was accepted into the Special Warfare Psychological Operations Course, but before I could complete all three schools, I was told to report to Mannheim-Seckenheim for an interview as the Transportation Officer at the headquarters of NATO’s Central Army Group (CENTAG). I reported to the Support Command’s commanding officer—Lieutenant Colonel Maurice Melborne Bloom—and was told I would be competing with other officers for the coveted position. I had to go back for a second interview and at that time was told I was one of two candidates remaining for the position (the irony was that the other lieutenant was a Georgetown classmate of mine). Shortly after the second interview I was informed by the infantry battalion’s S-1, that I had been accepted for the CENTAG job and was to report immediately to Hammonds Barracks, Seckenheim.

Once there, I was introduced to my immediate boss, the Support Command S-4, a Major Tecco (I have forgotten his first name). I also met the man I was replacing, First Lieutenant Richard Lohr. Lohr was sent Stateside about two weeks later and I settled in to my new job in June, 1964.

I was probably the junior commissioned U.S. officer on post, there being only one other U.S. first lieutenant, the MP commander. He and I both drew troops from all three companies of the Support Command, French (from Company A), German (from Company B, commanded by a World War II German Army veteran, Hauptmann Weber), and American (Company C). The kaserne (Hammonds Barracks) also housed the ACE Mobile Force (consisting of U.S., German, English, French, Italian, and, I believe, Norwegian troops), but we seldom interacted with them. I seem to remember we had three American captains on post and the five of us were the only company grade Americans in Hammonds Barracks, everyone else being field grade or higher.

The CENTAG Chief of Staff (and senior officer at Hammonds) was an American officer, Major General Robert Fergusson. His immediate superior was the USAREUR CG, General Paul Freeman, though Freeman was stationed in Heidelberg, several miles away. There were also two other flag rank officers on post, a German brigadier general named von Rosenthal (O&I) and a French brigadier general named Giroult (A&L). (I do not recall for certain whether we had a G-staff or a J-staff, but I am virtually positive we went as far as a “5” [Civil Affairs].)

In addition to being the Army Group Transportation Officer, I was in charge of the motor pool. I cannot remember the precise number of men who reported to me, but there were soldiers from all three countries: the U.S., Germany, and France. (This was when France was still a military member of NATO.) An NCO commanded my German contingent, and the French troops were commanded by a warrant officer (“adjudant” or “adjudant-chef”) named Jean-Pierre Roger (a veteran of both Vietnam and the French war in Algeria). In addition to Roget, I had two American warrant officers, CWO Pauley and CWO Richard Soos. I also had a clerk reporting to me, a German civilian employee named Günther Lorke, who prepared all the necessary travel and transportation documents for staff officers—all nationalities, both CENTAG and ACE headquarters—when they had to travel. Unfortunately—and to my great regret—I remember only a few of the names of my troopers: a SP4 Jack Titter; another named Boss (from the Chicago area; I remember he bought himself a beautiful BMW motorcycle while he was stationed there), and another spec-four named Clemens. I also had a young U.S. sergeant whose name escapes me, but who was married and had a baby son. All—and there were probably more than thirty or forty men from the three companies who reported to me—were fine soldiers.

CENTAG pocket fob
 
The motor pool consisted of sedans, i.e., German-made DKW’s, French Peugeots, some American vehicles, etc., for the various senior officers on the CENTAG staff, as well as German and American military vehicles, i.e., deuce-and-a-halves, Mercedes-Benz Unimogs, M-151s (Jeeps), a wrecker, water tanker, etc. The daily routine was travel orders (completed by Herr Lorke and signed by me), maintenance (supervised by CWOs Soos and Pauley), and dispatching vehicles for the headquarters’ needs. Once a month we would have an “alert” and I would move the entire headquarters back to one of its battle stations near a small French village called Angevillers (located south of the French-Luxembourg border and west of the French town of Thionville, just west of north of the city of Metz). The Maginot Line ran through the area and part of the rear HQ would be assembled in the old fortifications (much of which I wound up exploring!). If memory serves me correctly, the alerts usually lasted a couple of days and it was about the only time the Class-A-clad officers had a chance to try out their battle fatigues.

The Support Command commander, Colonel Bloom, was transferred back to the States some time in May or June, 1965, and General Fergusson left shortly after that. I cannot remember who replaced Bloom, but General William Enemark replaced Fergusson. I was promoted to captain in October, 1965, and General Enemark held a ceremony for me in his office. A little over a month later I was transferred back to the States, completing a tour that lasted thirty-eight months. Other than a battle command, CENTAG had to be the best duty an American officer could hope to have and I felt honored, because only the cream of our officer corps was fortunate enough to have been assigned there. The enlisted personnel were also some of our very best.
(I would also like to know if anyone could help me locate one of the metal CENTAG crests we wore on the upper left pocket of our Class A’s. I would certainly be willing to buy one.)

I wound up spending ten years in the military, but because of personal family problems, had to resign from the Regular Army. Looking back on things, it was a decision I regret to this day. I spent a few more years in the military in the New York Army National Guard, but it was not the same, and after ten years, total, I left the service behind. From a platoon leader in a frontline infantry battalion in Germany, to the prestige of the job at CENTAG, as the commander of the army’s last boat company (in Fort Eustis, Virginia), to being the commanding officer of the 1 st Infantry Division’s (the Big Red One) only truck company (in Vietnam), to running convoys up and down routes 1 and 13 (Thunder Road), and to running the first “infiltration” convoys of the Vietnam War (to An Loc and the old Michelin rubber plantation), I had a short, sharp, and fine career in the service. I will always miss the men the most.

 
1966
(Source: Emails from Dick Bleyenberg, Company B, CENTAG, 1966-68)
It was back in 1966 that I received my orders for CENTAG, Company B. When I arrived, I found that Company B's barracks were part of a hospital complex in Münchweiler. CENTAG, Company A was located in Mannheim.

CENTAG was a multi-national affair with American and German troops working side by side. Previously, French troops were also a part of CENTAG, but France pulled out of NATO and thus ended their involvement with CENTAG.

After processing in, I was assigned to a squad whose duties were working in the Comm. Center in a concrete bunker located in Ruppertsweiler approx 15 or so minutes from Münchweiler. This bunker, also known as "The Cave" contained the Comm Center. These were pre-satellite days and all the incoming and out going traffic was by punched tape. The teletype machines, code machines, and printers all seemed to be WWII vintage. The Comm. Center was a 24/7/365 operation. Squads worked in rotating shifts. One week you worked days, the next week was the swing shift, next was a week of nights, and then a week called detail week which would be a day shift performing duties in and around the company area (non-Comm. Center work).

I rotated back to the States early 1968.

I understand the hospital where Company B was housed in Münchweiler is no longer there. The entire post was sold to developers and they demolished everything and planed to built a housing development in its place. The Cave also has been destroyed from what I can learn. CENTAG also has been integrated into some other unit I have learned.

 
Late 1960s
(Source: SSG. Patrick Moore, SGT. John O’Connor, and SPC Phillip Ernstmeyer)
The CENTAG MPs, we were told, started as a detachment from the 529th MP Corps Honor Guards from Patton Barracks in Heidelberg. We are assuming this took place in the early 1960s when the Headquarters was relocated to Hammonds Barracks. Their duty was serving all CENTAG related groups with military law, security, and the first line of defense.

Our tour of duty for the following information was from 1968 to 1971 as CENTAG NATO MP. During this time the MPs were 50% American and 50% German Feldjagers IV Corps. Besides normal MP duties we were also responsible for security at the
(1) Hammonds Barracks Headquarters
(2) Feudenheim Bunker
(3) Ruppertsweiler Bunker, or Hill 450

Our MP Station was located in Hammonds Barracks across the street from the Headquarters building. We provided a Desk MP at four different buildings at the Kaserne. One Desk MP was for the Headquarters that housed ranking NATO Officers, “Generals” (American, German, English, Canadian, and French). This building also contained the NATO Conference Room with translating head sets for all NATO Officers and Government personnel attending. We checked everyone in and out, and were physically posted in the conference room during breaks and meals.

There were two other buildings with a Desk MP that housed the NATO Military and civilian personnel connected to G-2, G-3, and other services related to the Central Army Group. Some of these offices were behind very secure doors, a most restricted area. All CENTAG NATO MPs had a top secret clearance for this tour of duty.

The fourth building was the Officer’s Club. This site was used for lunches, dinners, and some very large parties for visiting military and government dignitaries. The Officers Club as the Headquarters Building was decorated with collectable prints, crystal chandeliers, and antique furniture from all the NATO Countries. Duty for these areas required a clean shave, whitewalls, a wrinkle free pressed uniform, and spit-shined boots.

At Feudenheim Bunker () there was one Desk MP 24-7 at the entrance to the Bunker. This was also the entrance for the Signal Corps, G-2, and G-3 personal. When CENTAG would have field exercises or War Games, the General Staff with MP security would be stationed there during the alert. The area was small and somewhat out of the way, but no effort was made to camouflage it from the public.

At Ruppertsweiler Bunker () there was an MP Station 24-7 near Hill 450. The area was heavily wooded, with a high perimeter fence, a building at the gates entrance, and an empty tunnel bunker back in the timber. This area was a decoy for Hill 450; the military hoped that, if there was ground attack, they would assault this area, thinking it was the communication site.

There were five MPs stationed at this site, two Germans, two Americans, and one German or American sergeant. The MPs lived at the site; it had an outhouse and was oil-heated, but had no running water. Trips to the Pirmasens Hospital (Husterhoeh Kaserne) were made about every other day for showers, C-rations, and other supplies.

Duty there was simple: keep the MP area secure , simulate Hill 450, and have a good relationship with the village citizens. To the town’s people we were known as the Ruppertsweiler MPs, and they used us when there was a problem related to military personnel.
 
I'm attaching some photos; the one with five of us at the desk, the four standing, we all stay in touch with each other to this day.

CENTAG MP's

 

1. CENTAG HQs (KB)

2. CENTAG MP's (KB)
 
 

3. Decoy building (KB)

4. Entrance to decoy bldg (KB)


 

1990
(Source: Email from Matthew Schwalm, NATO Combined Military Police CENTAG, 1990-93)
 I enjoyed you site on CENTAG, Campbell and Patton Barracks. I was an MP assigned to CENTAG from 1990-1993, it was a wonderful trip down memory lane. Thanks again.

NCMP was an international military police organization. We had a German Hauptmann who commanded the company and an American NCO as the NCOIC. We were responsible with security for the NATO Bldgs within Campbell Barracks, various patrol duties at the Joint Support Group bldgs adj to Patton Barracks and the Motor Pool at Friedrichsfeld. We also provided security at the IOR (International Other Ranks Club) at Patton Barracks.

It was interesting and fun working with the German soldiers, and was a far cry form my first active assignment as a division MP with the 10th Mountain Division (very little law enforcement -- we were in the field as much as the infantry -- that was a lot of fun).

NCMP was based out of Bldg 7 which is the main bldg one drives under as they come through the main gate. I miss Heidelberg a lot and hopefully will return for a visit someday. It is one of the most beautiful cities in all of Europe.

Here are some pics from Heidelberg that I took back in the early 1990s. The first is of Kokot (Gefreiter in the German Army), and Spc Kevin Lindsey of Alabama. They were both in my platoon. In the background is Bldg 8 -- 4ATAF.
 
The second is of the CENTAG annual picnic, somewhere outside Heidelberg. We provided security. L to R: Sgt. John Pekar of MD, Uffz Alex Goerner, Sgt Dan Holcombe, and me, Spc Matthew Schwalm (all from my platoon). I just returned from PLDC (NCO school at Graf -- I received my stripes the following May.)
 
The third photo is somewhere outside Heidelberg. We had just received these brand new Mercedes Jeeps. L to R: Stuffz Patrick Zoller of Bavaria, Sgt Craig Finley of NC, Spc Schwalm (me)., and Spc Dan Holcombe of CA (all from my platoon). Zoller was very tall. I am six ft and he towered over me. 

NCMP CENTAG
Heidelberg




1. Gefreiter Kokot and SPC Kevin Lindsey (KB)

2. Several members of the NCMP at a CENTAG picnic (KB)

3. Several members of NCMP (KB)
 


Mercedes trucks purchased by USAREUR c. 1990 (Benno Knorr)
 

Side view of Mercedes trucks (Benno Knorr)
 
(Source: Email from Benno Knorr, retired member of SHAPE and CENTAG headquarters)
CONGRATULATIONS for your absolutely great US ARMY GERMANY website !!! Even for an NATO insider, there are always new details never seen or heared before!

Enclosed are a couple of scanned pictures of US ARMY truck/trailer combinations. These trucks were build by ACKERMANN Co of Wuppertal on MERCEDES chassis. The trucks and trailers were flatbeds, ready to be loaded with a container type shelter (note the x-long wheelbase). They were to be delivered to a USAREUR unit (don't know which one) in Heidelberg. This unknown unit moved to Baumholder around 1991). The unit was waiting for the shelters to be loaded on the trucks and trailers. The trucks were parked at Campbell Bks./Heidelberg but I have never saw them with the shelters loaded.

We never got any information about the use of the trucks. Maybe USAREUR was planning an "alternate mobile HQ" like ours at CENTAG / 4ATAF?

Perhaps an involved reader can help with details?

 

CENTAG/4ATAF Motor pool, Rudolf-Diesel-Strasse, Heidelberg (BING)
(Click on image to see annotated hi-res aerial; click on BING to open BING Maps)
 

Joint Mobile War Headquarters Maintenance & Storgage Facility, Friedrichsfeld (BING)
(Click on image to see annotated hi-res aerial; click on BING to open BING Maps)
 

We, at the CENTAG / 4ATAF motor pool, trained the US crews how to drive German-type truck-trailer combinations on narrow German roads, especially back roads: Odenwald region, Pfälzer Wald region, Black Forest etc. GOOD TIMES!

My job at CENTAG /4ATAF motor pool was Truck Squadron leader, instructor for driver training, and driver for trucks, buses, sedans etc.. Our team was bi-national, German-American, with mixed "In-Charge"-positions for the NCO ranks. We also trained Canadian and French soldiers, assigned to CENTAG / 4ATAF and some from HQ ACE Mobile Force AMF (NATO airborne).

Our main task was to support HQ CENTAG / 4ATAF in all kinds of transportation questions - in garrison, in the field, on exercises and demonstrations etc..

In 1989 we assumed technical support of the Alternate Mobile War HQ, loaded on a huge number of Mercedes trucks and trailers, driven by soldiers of the various sections of HQ CENTAG / 4ATAF. The whole mobile HQ was independent when in the field. I have made lots of photos during this time. If you are interested, I can help.

My main interest while in military was military fire fighting, especially fire trucks of the US AIR FORCE and US ARMY here in Europe. Thousands of photos have been shot. Almost everything is gone by now and history. Due to my job at HQ SHAPE /Belgium and later at HQ CENTAG in Heidelberg, I took the opportunity to take pictures of almost everything seen on the road, in garrison or in the field. But still not enough.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
I joined CENTAG in January 1989, shortly after the Joint Transportation Company was formed when CENTAG and 4.ATAF jointed HQ. I remember the HQ Staff with all these S1, S2, S3, PAO, crypto, HQ signals and what else sections, all located at Campbell Bks., also the MP`s, at the Rudolf-Diesel-Strasse facility in Heidelberg, across the railtracks near Patton Bks., where the HQ Support Group and Motor Pool/Maintenance and Supply were located. Patton Barracks housed the national elements (US, German, Canadian, French assigned to CENTAG/4.ATAF), the so-called PIO-Zug (Pionier Zug = Engineer Platoon) and some USAREUR HQ units.

All signal units assigned to CENTAG were stationed outside of Heidelberg. US Signals at Mannheim-Feudenheim and region; German Fernmeldebataillon 890 in Phillippsburg near Karlsruhe. All these units used German Army style license plates on their vehicles starting with a `X`. They had their own support, supply, maintenance and organisation structure. We at Patton or Campbell Bks saw them only when they visited the PX....!

 

Formation next to Support Group headquarters building, Rudolf-Diesel-Strasse Compound
 

American troops assigned to HQ Support Group, Rudolf-Diesel-Strasse Compound
 
MoPo (the Motor pool), at the Rudolf-Diesel-Strasse Compound (later called International Hq Support Caserne), only housed the vehicles used with HQ CENTAG/4.ATAF in Heidelberg. Cars (sedans, station wagons, special staff cars), light trucks/vans/pickups, medium size trucks/vans, 5-ton size trucks for general purpose, the ambulance truck, the NBC truck, the maintenance truck and van plus recovery trailer, small/medium/large size buses. MP Mercedes `G` Wagon 4x4 patrol cars and the small number of vehicles used with the French and German Army elements. All other vehicles were "guests" only.

The JWHQ vehicles and equipment was stored/parked at Friedrichsfeld facility. If needed, we could use the two heavy crane/recovery and fuel trucks, usually in use with the JWHQ.

The JWHQ storage was its own compound inside the Friedrichfeld US QM facility. Fenced all around and having its own locked gate. But we had to pass the US main gate to get to ours. This storage cosists of a huge parking area for all the trucks (cargo, shelter, kitchen, office...), trailers (cargo, water tanker, power units), semi truck-trailer combinations, the two fuel tankers, the `Expando-Van` (US 5-ton type van trucks with folding sides) used as conference van or office and the two heavy crane/wrecker trucks (used for recovery and lifting shelters from and on trucks), if not parked at Rudolf-Diesel-Strasse compound. Service personnel came from our motor pool (really a quiet, relaxing job...!).

CENTAG/4ATAF War HQ`s were Ruppertsweiler Underground Facility (called RUF) and Kindsbach Underground Facility (called KUF), first used by CENTAG (RUF) and 4.ATAF (KUF), later the two used by both (Joint HQ). Plus the Joint Mobile War HQ, based on trucks, trailers etc.. On exercises (24hrs. duty) we used both bunker facilities plus barracks in Pirmasens, Münchweiler, Ramstein, Sembach etc.. All assigned personnel were lodged at hotels, guesthouses, Arius Kaserne (at RUF), nearby US or German barracks or recreation parks close to RUF or KUF.

Motor Pool
Rudolf-Diesel-Str.

 

1.

2.
 
3. Sgt. Carolan
 

4. COL Hickock

5.


6. Awards ceremony
 

7. Transportation Company

8.


9. Morning formation
 

10.

11.
   
 

Vehicles of the 97th Sig Bn (US) at the Rudolf-Diesel-Strasse Compound
 

97th Sig Bn, CSG
Rudolf-Diesel-Str.

 

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2.
 
3.
 

4.


 

 
CENTAG Signal Group
 

Vehicles of A Company, 97th Sig Bn at Grafenwoehr, 1987 (Benno Knorr)
 

A 97th Sig Bn wrecker tows a tanker from the same unit near Sandhofen (Benno Knorr)
 
(Source: 97th Signal Battalion, 40 Years, 1952-1982)
The CENTAG Signal Support Group was formed on 1 July 1969. However, its development actually began in April 1960, with the formation of CENTAG Signal Battalion (Provisional), consisting of two US Signal Companies, the 208th Signal Company and the 521st Signal Company. Later that year, in October, the 125th French Signal Company was assigned, establishing the unit as an international command in CENTAG (NATO). At this time, the name was changed to the CENTAG Signal Operations Battalion.

The Battalion became tri-national on 2 May 1962, when the 75th German Signal Company was added, bringing the number of companies to four. In September 1966, a second German Signal Company, the 76th, was assigned as a replacement for the French Company which was reassigned. (1)

Almost three years later, on 1 July 1969, the CENTAG Signal Operations Battalion was reorganized and redesignated as the CENTAG Signal Support Group. At that time the Group received operational command of the 97th (US) Signal Battalion and the German Signal Battalion (CENTAG). In January 1971, the Group headquarters became tri-national with the arrival of a Canadian Staff Officer.

The final change during the Group's seventeen (17) year history was the redesignation of the German Battalion as the 890th (GE) Signal Battalion (Fernmeldebataillon 890) in April 1971.

Today (1982), the CENTAG Signal Support Group, consisting of over 1600 officers and men, stands well trained and equipped to accomplish its vital mission of providing communications for the Commander, Central Army Group and his Staff.

(1) I believe the 75th (FmKp 75) at Münchweiler became 4th Company, 890 GE Sig Bn when that battalion was formed in 1971..

 
(Source: Email from Jack Atwell)
I was stationed on the hill above the "cave" at Ruppertsweiler () from May 1963 to November 1964. Enclosed some photographs from about 42 years ago.

CENTAG Sig Op Site A
Ruppertsweiler

 

1. Commcen buildings (KB)

2. Entrance to Site A (KB)
 
3. Sleeping quarters (KB)
 

4. CENTAG vehicles (KB)

5. Town of Ruppertsweiler (KB)


6. CENTAG soldiers, different nations (KB)
 

7. French soldiers (KB)

8. Radio Relay tower (KB)

9. 40KW generator (KB)
 

10. Ruppertsweiler map ()
     

 
1970-80s
(Source: Author's collection)

Roster
 
The image to the left (click on it for higher resolution view) is of a Farewell gift to a member of the CENTAG Signal Group and contains the names, job functions and signatures of personnel assigned to CENTAG Sig Gp.

If anybody has some details, please contact the webmaster.


Based on the unit information found in this roster, it appears that CENTAG Sig Gp was comprised of at least the following sections:

Commander (a German LTC)
Deputy Commander (a US LTC?)
Administration Section -- S1
COMSEC (Section) -- S2?
Operations (Section) -- S3
Communications Center
Communications Engineer
High Frequency (Section)
Telephone & Wire (Section)
CMC / TCF
TCF Kindsbach
Logistics -- S4

TCF . . . Technical Control Facility
CMC . . . ??

 
Signal Operations Battalion
 
(Source: Email from Howard Emery, 208th Sig Co, 1960-62)
I was looking on the web to find out when CENTAG was discontinued, when I came across your site. I was among the first personnel in the signal support for CENTAG, and it was an enjoyable assignment for me and my family.

While assigned to the 17th Signal Battalion in Germany, I received orders on 1 Jul 1960 along with 11 other enlisted men to attend a course of instruction in microwave radio relay equipment at the S.A.T. factory in Paris, France.  Upon completion of the training we returned to our duty station until 11 Oct 1960, when I was re-assigned to the 208th Signal Support Company at the US Army Hospital at Munchweiler, Germany.

On 9 Nov 1960, I received orders that changed the company's name to 208th USA Signal Company (Support). We were the initial personnel of the new company. I remained there until 8 Sep 1962, serving in the following positions:  Training & Security NCOIC; Field testing of mobile microwave & radio relay equipment; Liaison & Translator NCO for the French Army.

Our company had soldiers from the 1st French Army at Angevillers, France, Baden Baden Germany and at Hill 450 attached to it.

Radio stations were at Hill 450 nearby and at Hill 555 near Bergzabern, Germany, the Com center was located below Hill 450 in a tunnel near Ruppertsweiler, Germany.  The personnel working at hill 450 and the com center were billeted at the Army hospital and those at hill 555 lived on site. The tunnel that housed the Com center below Hill 450 was at one time part of the Sigfried Line fortifications and extended for many miles underground.  Many of these tunnels housed our military Headquarters and com centers, both in Germany and in the Maginot line tunnels in France. You must be aware that the location of the wartime headquarters prior to CENTAG becoming a separate command was in an underground  tunnel (built as part of the Siegfried Line) located in Ramstein, the town, not the Air Force Base (Webmaster note: this might have been Kindsbach). Kind of amusing for us NCOs that one had to be a Brig. Gen. or above to dine in the Officer's Mess in that tunnel.

We were issued CENTAG ID cards with descriptions in English, French and German, and required new security clearances to comply with NATO and CENTAG.

The CENTAG wartime headquarters I was referring to was in an underground  tunnel (built as part of the Siegfried Line) located in Ramstein, the town, not the Air Force Base.
 
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

Q: After the 208th Sig Co was formed, was it attached to the 17th Sig Bn or did it report directly to CENTAG?
A: No, the 208th was not attached to the 17th Sig Bn. The 17th was a field signal battalion that supplied communications for USAREUR during field exercises. It also provided communications for 4th ATAF exercises. The 208th was directly under CENTAG; German General Spidel was the CENTAG Commander at the time. Our Battalion was staffed with personnel of the three nations: USA, France and Germany.

Q: Was the 208th a US signal unit with a few French soldiers attached orwas it an equal mix of US and French soldiers?
A: The 208 had about 15 French soldiers attached to the company.

Q: Was the 208th primarily a radio relay company? If so, did it connect the CENTAG wartime headquarters at Ruppertsweiler with the peacetime hqs in Heidelberg?
A: Radio relay was a great part of the organization. However, Com center operations were a part as well. The connections were with Com centers in both France and Germany.
The 208th radio net was far reaching.
Hill 450
was both a terminal site and relay station. For certain I know that it reached the 1st French Army at Angevillers. The 208th had a couple of personnel at that location for a time. Whether the French had another relay at Bitche, France, I am not certain, but as the UHF was basically line of site (30-50 miles range depending on elevations) it would have been needed to have further relays.  The equipment at Hill 450 had 24-voice channels and each of those channels was capable of 48 TTY units (teletype). Practically the net was much like a long distance
telephone network. 
At Hill 555 which was a multiple relay station there was a link to CENTAG headquarters as well. No terminal equipment was at Hill 555, just radio relay on that system.
   
Q: Was there also a comm link between Ruppertsweiler and the Headquarters of 7th Army (Stuttgart) and 1st French Army (Baden-Baden)? If so, which unit operated that link?
A: Yes, The 208th had 6 French soldiers attached to it that operated the link between Baden Baden and the 7th.
The links from Baden Baden by the French were high frequency radio (morse code) nets. As I was the liaison NCO for the French team at Baden Baden, I can recall one amusing story. The French soldiers there had repeated complaints from some American operators about the 60 words per minutes peed that they sent code and it was kind of demoralizing them a bit. On one trip I brought along a fellow from my unit who was a railroad key operator in civilian life, he was capable of sending +120 wpm, I had him take over the key for the French soldier as he received the complaint again. There was never another complaint about their 60 wpm from the Americans as they could not copy the speed of the fellow I brought down there and since the US soldier on the other end did not know it was not the same French operator, the morale of that small group I had down there was much improved.

Q: You mentioned going to a French factory for training. Did the 208th use French radio relay equipment? Exclusively?
A: Our Mobile Microwave equipment was French, Generators were German, Towers were USA. The stations were mounted in French Saviom (sp?) trucks. However, most of our radio relay equipment was American VHF. The Mobile Microwave Stations on trucks for which I was responsible were field tested at different locations with repeated tower installations and field tested until we were able to relocate them and install them in a day's time.  Their mission was to establish a multi-channel telecommunications system at new locations as required.  Sadly, the only failure were the American built 66-foot towers that experienced metal fatique after repeated erection and 2 of them collapsed. However, the French Microwave systems and German generators performed flawlessly. After field testing those units were put in service on Hills 450, 555 and other locations I cannot remember to increase the volume of telecommunications capability for the net to Centag HQ. and be on the ready to move as required.

All in all the 208th provided constant communications links 24 hours around the clock to the various headquarters. Some of these links were provided prior to the CENTAG organization by the 17th Signal Battalion, 175th Signal Service Company and the 102nd Signal Battalion. The mission of the 17th was more of a field (tactical) nature than that of providing permanent links.

Remember, this was not a "radio net" such as high frequency HF (morse code and or voice), it was Very High Frequency VHF that sent out multiple information on one frequency and required multiplexing and demultiplexing terminals to extract the information. The VHF radio relays could not access any information being transmitted or received, only receive and pass on the signal.
 
Terminals would have the capability to access the information with their equipment and generally would have hardwired connections to com centers. This was much the same with microwave only at higher frequencies ( ultra high frequency UHF), generally with greater number of channels and at less powre output. Security wise even though the enemy mag intercept the radio signals the could not gain usable information unless they had the exact same multiplexing and demultiplexing equipment.

In order to help clear things up a bit about Angevillers, I have to go back to the mid-1950s when I was in the 102nd Sig Bn. I was assigned to three separate Stations in my company over the period of some years. A terminal station at Orleans (ORL callsign), a relay station at Fromont (FMT callsign), and a terminal station, Thionville (THE callsign) near Angevillers. At the latter station we were billeted by the French Army at Camp d' Angevillers and later by the 175th Sig Svc Co when they
located at the French Army installation.

The 175th installed a VHF Radio terminal station on the site of our station and also had personnel located in the French Army's huge communications center located in a Maginot Line Tunnel there at Camp d' Angevillers. This area was, to the best of my recollection, one of France's main Communication centers.  The French soldiers attached with me in the 208th in later years were from that installation, even those I had in Baden Baden who operated a HF net at that location. Some of the French Officers and NCOs that I knew when assigned to the 102nd were the same ones I liaisoned with while in the 208th.

I cannot say for certain how many relay stations may have been utilized between hill 450 and Angevillers, but they would more than likely have been operated by the French, perhaps at Camp Bitche or other locations. I have found no information on your site about the 175th Sig
unit. I do not know what group they were under.

With Microwave we had an order wire to communicate with the other stations that was not broadcasted, but an inegral part of the system. What I am trying to say is our transmissions were just a signal and if you had a receiver in the line of sight of it at the correct frequency you would have only heard a
tone.

I hope that this helps your understanding, some of the events are a bit hazy for this old mind in this day.

 
(Source: Email from Robert Plumadore )
I was assigned to the 208th Signal Co from April 1962 until April 1964. I was assigned to the motor pool. Everyone got along with only a few exceptions. It was probably the best two years of my almost 10 career.

Like Dan Shanks said - we gave up our US Military ID and were issued a CENTAG ID.
Also our regular clerances were not honored we had to be recleared for NATO.
 
The vehicles we had were mainly the worst of the worst, some had been salvaged, we did not have a unit tool set or a complete set of mechanic's hand tools.  We did the best we could. The rest of the Army in Europe had the new Ford M151 (MUTT) 1/4 ton vehicle, we were stuck with the Korean war vintage M38, not the M38A1, but the old Willis of 1950. Dan mentions there were multi-national vehicles; the only ones were two French Renaults that would only run  when coaxed by Al Trent, a country mechanic from Morristown, TN.
 
I only have contact with Albert Trent, Albert Neal and John Ketch from that old unit.

 
(Source: Email from Dan Shanks)

When I was assigned in 1963 the company was known as the 208th Signal Co. I believe in 1964, the company changed names to Company B, CENTAG.

We were issued yellow CENTAG ID cards as well as our army ID cards. Our company was quartered on the Muenchweiler hopital post. Our battalion HQ was in Seckenheim.

Our company was composed of third American, third German and a third French soldiers all working together. We had vehicles from all three countries. The American and German soldiers got along real good but no one liked the French.

Our company operated a Com center in the "cave" (at Ruppertsweiler) and we also had deuce and halfs with radio vans on them (AN/GRC-26 radios). My job was keeping a teletype line going 24 hours a day to Fountainbleu, France. I also worked as a morse code operator.

I spent almost two years with this company before going home for discharge. As far as history of the unit, I don't really know much. At the time I wasn't interested in anything like that. All I had on my mind was counting the days till I could go home.

Webmaster Note:
STATION LIST, 30 Sep 1963
, lists the 208th Sig Spt Co as being stationed at Münchweiler USAH and being organized under TO&E 11-117R55.
In the same source are listed:
US Army Element, HQ CENTAG, Hammonds Bks, Seckenheim, TD 86-622308
Signal Operations Battalion, CENTAG, Spinelli Bks, Mannheim, TD 86-622309

In addition to the above, there is a 521st Sig Op Co listed at Feudenheim with a TO&E 11-500R55. It appears that this unit supported HQ CENTAG and later become Company A, Sig Op Bn. Does anybody have information on the 521st?

STATION LIST, 30 Sep 1965, lists the following:
US Army Element, HQ CENTAG, Hammonds Bks, Seckenheim, TD SD-622308
Signal Operations Battalion, CENTAG, Spinelli Bks, Mannheim, TD SD-6223
Co A, Sig Op Bn, CENTAG, Feudenheim Bunker, Mannheim, TD SD-622311
Co B, Sig Op Bn, CENTAG, USAH Münchweiler, TD SD-6223


 
(Source: Email from Bruce Fassett)
I was assigned to the 521st Sig Op Co in February 1964. When I arrived it turned out to be Company A, Sig Op Bn of CENTAG. I was there for a year. Can probably dredge up some recollections from time spent there. Is there anyway to get a roster from that time period?

I went back to Europe in May of 2000 and visited the old bunker. Well, I visited what was left of it. It was in the process of being demolished.

 
(Source: Email from Gregory Greek, Co B, CENTAG)
I was assigned to Company B, HF platoon at Mannheim, Germany in early August 1966. My MOS was radio/teletype operator. We ran AN/GRC-26D's mounted on flatbed Mercedes trucks. (We used the ANGRY 26D's the entire time I was in Europe. They were our Army versions of a Winnebago.) Our home away from home away from home.) We were stationed at a little site in a residential area of the city. This was possibly the Feudenheim bunker.

After about 6 months half of us were put on TDY duty at Company A in Muenchweiler at the field hospital. There were about 15 or so of us crammed in a little, maybe 12 or 13 feet square, room along with all our gear. After about 6 months or so we were moved again up on one of the mountaintop radio sites. We called it Tiger 20. It looked a lot like what is called Sig Op Site A.

I didn't care too much for Army life but if I had been given the opportunity I belive I would have been more than happy to have spent a career in that area. It was absolutely beautiful. I would like to hear from anyone that had a similar experience. I can't get anyone to believe that any part of Army life was like that. I consider myself extremely lucky to have had that experience.

 
(Source: Email from Tom Holzer, Co A, Sig Op Bn, 1968-69)
I was with Co A, Sig Op Bn, CENTAG, Feudenheim Bunker, Mannheim from 1968 & 1969. The Feudenheim Bunker had a major switchboard and, as we understood it, computers related to the missile systems. We had NATO credentials and, as identified by others, did not have formations or inspections. This was a multi-national location.

We ran the wireless communications check between sites.  We were the backup if the Land Lines failed.  Our little radio room was the hangout for the lesser senior officers during alerts.  It was not uncommon for full birds and 1 stars to join us in the radio room.  This kept them away from the 2 & 3 stars running the show.
 
Part way through my assignment, part of our group was moved to a remote location where we setup our radio link and our job was to keep connected 24 hours.  We lived pretty much on the economy.  One of the names I recall is Little. I believe he was the Sgt. in charge of that detail.
 
I got my Amateur Radio License when I was in Germany and operated a MARS station from the Bunker.  I was sorry to hear that the bunker was torn down.
 
Part of the joy for me was our flexibility.  We had passes whenever and since I could speak some German, my time there was wonderful.

 
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