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210th FA Group DI 
210th FA Brigade DI (approved May 23, 1969) |
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(Source:
Organization Day, 210th FA Bde, Jan 24 1984)
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The
210th Field Artillery Group was activated
on 15 October 1958 (replacing the 18th
FA Gp), allotted to the Regular Army and stationed in Ansbach,
Germany. The Group was attached to VII Corps Artillery.
On 7 July 1971, the Group moved to Herzo Base in Herzogenaurach, Germany. The 210th Group was reorganized and redesignated as the 210th FA Brigade on 16 September 1980 and was authorized to wear its own shoulder sleeve insignia. The formal ceremony changing the Group to a Brigade was held on 25 Nov 1980 with the VII Corps Commander presenting the new Brigade colors to the Brigade Commander. The 210th FA Bde's motto remained: "Controlling the Best." ORGANIZATION (1983): |
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| If you have more information on the history or organization of the 210th FA Group/Brigade (or any of the subordinate units), please contact me. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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(Source:
Email from Robert E. Richards, 210th FA Gp)
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| There is an airfield
at Katterbach, Germany about 5 Klicks outside Ansbach on the way to
Nurnberg, just off the highway. There is an Autobahn now that goes
past Ansbach from Nurnburg to Frankfurt that was not there when I
was stationed there. I was stationed here in the US Army Artillery
from 1962 - 1964. The 210th Group was assigned to 7th Army when I
was there, and supported the Armored Units. I had a 7th Army patch. Hindenberg Kaserne 1/75th Arty Bn, Ansbach, which was an old 8in. SP Howitzer Bn This was my first outfit, as a 2nd Lt. Barton Barracks, Ansbach, had 210th Arty Group Hqs, and 1/33d MSL Bn (Honest John). I had duty assignment as Comm Officer for this Bn. This was my 3d assignment. I was also stationed in Nurnberg, at Merrill Barracks with the 3/39th Gun (280mm) Bn. (2ea Batterys, 4ea Guns). The 39th had one (1) battery (2ea Guns) at Schwabach, Germany, a town about 20 klicks away. I assisted in deactivating this Bn. One of the Guns is in the Ft. Sill museum. The 39th was replaced by the 3/17th Arty Bn with new 8in.SP Howitzers. Most of the troops switched. Some came from the old 75th Bn which was changed in Ansbach. I stayed with the 17th and became the Bn Comm Officer. This was my 2nd assignment. Also stationed at this post was the 2/34th SP 155mm Gun Bn. These were also part of the 210th Group. There was also a Signal Corps detachment at this post and an Armor Regiment Hqs. Soldier's Field was near by, and we trained there. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: The 1/75th 8in Howitzer was the old SP which had the crew portion housed in a sort of turret. My first assignment. 1962. Hindenberg Kaserne in Ansbach, Ger. This was probably replaced with 175mm Gun Bn as stated in related links.
Second assignment was in Nurnberg at Merrill Bks (SS Kesern) 3/39th Gun Bn 280mm. This was deactivated and replaced with the new 8in SP M110. 3/17th FA BN using M110.
Third assignment was 1/33 Missile Bn Honest John which had replaced the Lacross 4/28. BTW, the Honest John was eventually replaced with the Lance Missile BN, but I was gone by then. We knew this was coming, and I remember that we were given extra HJs special that emulated the Lance, and we had to send our firing data back to Redstone. I believe we also had the first FADAC computer. FADAC meant Field Arty Deflection Azmuth Computer. Before the FADAC, we used slide rule sticks for computations in fire control.
There was a Corporal Missile Bn at Bleidorn also and belonged under 210th. This was eventually replaced by the Sergeant Missile Bn.
RECAP: BNs.  1 ea 8in M55 old --> 1 ea 8in M110 new --> maybe 1ea 175mm Gun M107 (new)1 ea Lacross --> 1 ea HJ 1 ea Corporal to 1 ea Sergeant to --> Lance (?) 1 ea 280mm Gun --> 8in How. (new)1 ea 155mm Gun SP M53 --> 1 ea 155mm Gun SP M (new) |
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(Source: Email from Gerry Adams, HHB, 210th FA Group, 1967-69) |
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In the picture is "Jersey 28" (peacetime radio call "Kind Tribes 28"). Does anyone, besides me, remember the wartime call sign designation? As everyone else, we deployed about monthly on USAREUR alerts, and lots of time at Graf. We deployed during the 1968 Czech revolt to the border when my skills as a FO got me hooked up with a recon unit. (From 28 to 2A.) I arrived as an E-2, at age 17. I was an OCS candidate so I wound up at Ansbach until I turned 18. By then attrition, and the turmoil to the East, won a few field commissions under the command of Col. Hockaday (the Hawk). I swear he was everywhere, knew everything, and no one got away with anything. It was a great place and time to serve. I returned to Seattle and started a career as a private detective. Still investigating and handling an explosives detection canine, also. Thanks for making this web site available. |
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(Source: Email from Steve White) |
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I just looked up my old unit on Google for fun and really enjoyed the info
supplied. I especially enjoyed and identified with Mike Tando, 1st Msl,
33rd Arty. I was stationed at Bleidorn Kaserne in Ansbach, Germany 1982-1984. We had M109 SP 155mm Howitzers. Our unit spent many 30-day training stints at "Graf" as well as several local deployments a month. And of course " FULL ALERTS." Barton Barracks, Hindenburg Kaserne and Katterbach (the airfield) were all in place and operational during my deployment. Hindenburg was the main local hub with the PX, Bank and Movies. Barton Barracks had Movies as well. Katterbach which was too far to walk, had all those things, plus a newly constructed "Burger King" which I thought was amazing but rarely visited because of all the great local food and of course the German bier. "Ludwigs Stube" was probably the most visited German restaurant and they even had a "Pizza Guy" deliver to the barracks. I ultimately served as a driver for 1st SGT Kiernan, and Colonel Michaud as well as Captain Dunham and several other officers assigned to me. I truly enjoyed the privilege and responsibility they gave me. Especially 1st Sgt, he was a character. I was referred to on occasion by my direct superiors as "little general" because I liked to smoke cigars with them and help man the radio and maps in the field. I thought that was pretty cool. I was also "OJT'd" (on the job trained) as a PLL (Prescribed Load List) clerk to replace an outgoing clerk and because they couldn't get a new one right away. I was assigned to the Motor Pool when not in the field. I was also ordered to be the "R&U" "Repair and Utilities" man which entailed making general facility repairs. Funny, I had lots of duties. From driver, clerk and handy man. I never was assigned to a gun as a 13 Bravo which was my MOS. I met a beautiful German girl while stationed in Germany and continued a long relationship with her. I ended up studying German as my minor in college and even transferred one year to the University of Maryland in Munich so we could be close. I headed to Seattle after graduating college in New Hampshire. One interesting thing I do remember is that, as GI's, we needed "Membership Cards" to go to many local nightclubs. The bars only let so many American GI's in at a time and the cards were hard to come by. The cards would be sold at a premium by GI's who were rotating back to the states. Or should I say, Short timers rotating back to the world. Those Army years in Germany and traveling Europe are full of great memories. I'm sure my experience was much different than those who served 40 years earlier. |
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(Source: Email from
Gary W. Burroughs , 3-37th FA, 1984-85) |
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| (Source: Email from Gregory A. Drake, 210th FA Bde, 1982-92) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I was stationed at Herzo Base during it's last 10 years as a US Army installation, from April 1982 to February 1992. Yes, I was there that long! I started out with the 3/37th FA (spent 4 years with that 8-inch/203mm cannon artillery battalion), then moved next door to the 2/377th FA (a Lance missile battalion) for 2 years, spending my last 4 years with the HQ 210th FA Bde. I managed to stay at Herzo Base as long as I did because (a) I kept changing jobs (I worked at both battalions and then at brigade) and (b) they kept promoting me (I arrived there as a very "green" Staff Sergeant and left there as a newly-promoted Master Sergeant). I would have stayed longer (I had been accepted for a First Sergeant's position with the 55th Personnel Service Company on W.O. Darby Kaserne in Fuerth), but they decided to shut down VII Corps, which included everything in the Nuernberg-Fuerth-Erlangen-Herzogenaurach area! I saw the end of the REFORGER exercises (we participated in several of them -- 3/37th FA and it's M109 self-propelled howitzers), went to Crete for live-fire exercises (and watched as 2/377th FA (Lance) became 2/12th FA (MLRS)), and went to Saudi Arabia in December 1990 when the 210th FA Bde deployed in support of Operations DESERT SHIELD and DESERT STORM. We got back in April 1991 and immediately started drawing down (the announcement had already been made the year before, just prior to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990). When I left Herzo Base, both battalions were gone and there were only about five of us left "minding the store" up at brigade headquarters. I'm still in touch with several folks from those days: Richard Leap (then a CPT, now a LTC in Fort Carson CO), Tom Edmundson (my last CSM with the 210th, now retired and living in Copperas Cove, TX), Edwin Vernon (former Brigade Commander, now living in Pinehurst, SC), Sam Floca (former 3/37th FA commander, now living in Texas), Doug Langdon (retired 1SG from Btry A, 2/377th FA), Ray Hanning (retired MSG who ran the HHB 210th FA Bde motor stables), etc. I last visited the base about 2 years ago, observing how Weinquelle Brackhoff (from Erlangen), Adidas, and a local furniture store took over most of the motor pool and the larger storage buildings (e.g., the old commissary and PX); they set up a Montessori school in the old education center as well! Most of the barracks have fallen into disrepair, although I noticed that, of those that survived, they were being used as music studios/practice spaces and other things, mostly on the initiative of the local youth groups. They say you can never go back, right? |
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| I was there in the 28th Arty from 1966 to 1969. Was also at the airfield in Katterbach. Was in the 35th for a short time. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Barton Barracks was home for me from January 1963 through May 1965. First arriving at Merrill Barracks, Nurnberg, assigned to the 3rd of the 39th FA, Aviation Section, I was transferred to Ansbach. If my memory is correct, the 3/39th FA, 2/34th, and 1/75 aviation units were all assigned temporary duty to Hqs Btry, 210th FA Group at Ansbach. Temporary duty but for an indefinite period of time.
These Aviation Sections and that of the 210th all worked together at the airfield at Katterbach. This was a great time for me. After about a year working on the L-19 Birddogs I transferred to Hqs Btry, 210th, and took care of the U-6 Beaver. The airfield at Katterbach was a nice place to be. I miss all the guys and the pilots and remain in contact with three of the men, Jim Ashcraft, Wendel Borgerson and Larry Nix. I believe one of our pilots, Steve Snyder, was the pilot lost on Flight 800. I also heard fascinating stories about the stuff supposedly underground at Merrill and Barton Barracks. What else? Basic at Ft. Ord, school at Ft. Rucker. Shipped over on the Geiger and back on the Rose. Was a Spec 4. Also had friends among the aviation mechs at Illeshiem. Drew flight pay and proficiency pay, which made quite a difference to my paycheck. Sure would like to hear from Bruce Kutz, Steven Lowe, Pharies Petty, Tom Lindsay, Tom Perkins, any of the pilots and mechs who were a part of our group. ADDITIONAL INFORMATON After boot camp and aircraft maintenance training I arrived in Nurnberg in January, 1963, assigned to the aviation section of the 3/39 FA, Merrill Barracks. I remember the 280mm atomic cannons there, the snow and how cold it was. I turned 18 a month later.
The Aviation Section was stationed at Barton Barracks, Ansbach, and worked at the airfield at Katterbach. After a few days I was shipped to Ansbach. The (aviation sections of the) 3/39, 2/28 and I believe the 2/34 FA aviation units were consolidated under the 210th FA Group, Hqs Battery. Barton Barracks was technically a temporary location for the units, because each was away from its home outfit. Each unit had two O-1A Bird dogs, or L-19s. The 210th had a U-6A Beaver and an OH-13 Sioux (Bell) helicopter. I had a great time there. I transferred (on paper) from the 3/39 to the 210th and, as a Spec 4, drew flight pay and proficiency pay and flew many hours as a passenger in the aircraft. We had some very good officers/pilots and men. One sunny day, possibly in 1964, many of us watched a Lufthansa 720B explode a few thousand feet over Katterbach. We later found out only the crew was onboard, but never found out why it blew apart. The images remain in my mind. I have some photos, not very good ones, of that time of my life. I would like to find good photos of Merrill Barracks, Soldier's Field, Barton Barracks and Katterbach as it was then. My three year enlistment was near to ending and I rotated home in June, 1965. |
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(Source: Email from R.F. (Rick) Landrum, 3rd Bn, 17th FA, 1970-72) |
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| I was at Merrell with the 3/17 from July 1970 to April 1972. I was FDO and XO for C Battery. By the way, I am looking for interior pics of Merrell. Especially the post chapel etc. My recollections of Merrell Barracks - R.F. Landrum I was the Fire Direction Officer and Executive Officer for C Battery, 3/17th FA from 1970 to 1972. I arrived in Germany in July 1970 and I was originally assigned to the 6th Battalion, 10th Field Artillery at Bamberg. I was reassigned immediately to the 3/17th in Nurnberg because they were reorganizing the unit and needed officers. I wanted to start looking for an apartment right away so I could send for my wife, but I stayed in Bamberg a few days and was then sent to Grafenwohr for a month on maneuvers. My hold baggage had already been shipped to Bamberg, so I had to have everything sent to Nurnberg after it arrived. I managed a ride from Grafenwohr down to Nurnberg on a supply truck, and I first saw Merrell in mid August 1970. It was a huge imposing structure that looked like not much had been done to it since the war. Merrell Barracks had lots of stories about what had happened there during and before the war. They had to do with all sorts of ties to the Nazi parade grounds in Nurnberg and the fact that is was a local headquarters for the “SS”. It was a huge building with many floors and rooms. It was designed to house over a thousand men. It had four stories and an attic above ground, and three basements below ground. Only one of the basements was open to be used, the others were flooded after the war because of fears it had been boobie trapped. The whole complex covered about 4 square city blocks. The basement was very dark and scary. I used to carry a load 45 when I had staff duty officer at night and had to check on all the equipment storage rooms. I saw rats down there as big as cats. My office had bullet pock marks in the interior walls. It overlooked the main gate from second floor. The front of the building was still shell marked from the bombing and fighting that took place there in April 1945. My tour was during the Viet Nam war era, and it was common for drug searches to be conducted in the barracks. I had to keep watch from the quadrangle below and notice which windows things came out flying out of. The troops would throw things out the windows to keep from getting caught. My routine was to spend a month in Grafenwohr, or Vilseck, training with the unit, then back to Nurnberg for a month of maintenance and inspections. We were a nuclear capable unit and had many inspections by USAREUR, DOA, and the NERC. Officers would also go back to Grafenwohr to serve as live fire safety officers for other units in training. I spent about 8-1/2 months of my tour of duty in Germany in the field, in training away from home, or acting as umpires for US based unit maneuvers, such as REFORGER. My wife came over in October 1970. I could not get quarters for 83 weeks, so we lived off post in a second story apartment rented from a German family. We became very close to them and stayed in touch over the years. I even had an opportunity to visit a few days with them while on a business trip back to the area in 1978. My wife and I traveled as much as we could during our time in Germany. We visited 11 countries and had a wonderful experience. My wife was able to visit East Berlin and pass through the Berlin wall at “Check Point Charley”. All of the Americans who lived in Nurnberg were a close group, and we enjoyed the social opportunities a great deal. We forged friendships that have lasted to this day. I could write a book on our experiences, and may one day for my children and grand children. |
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I served in the 2nd Bn 28th FA from March 1964 to September 1966. I entered
the service in September 1963, finished basic at Fort Ord, California, and
received advanced training at Fort Sill, OK, where I received an MOS in Fire
Direction Control. My first assignment was to a Target Acquisition
Battalion at Kelly Barracks near Stuttgart. The unit was in the process of
disbandment so within a month I was assigned to the 2nd 28th at Hindenburg
Kaserne, Ansbach. At that point in time the old 8" guns were in the process
of being phased out and being replaced by new 175mm self propelled guns.
The battalion insignia motto was "We Support The Line" but after firing top
scores at Grafenwohr during the summers of 1964 and 1965, most of the troops
liked to use the motto "Best By Test". The Battalion Commander at the time
was Lt Col. Robert McKenna, a fine officer who was well respected by all who
served under him. Although the Cold War was at a zenith during this period,
our unit went through the normal number of drills, alerts, and FTX's without
incident. In early 1966, the 2nd 28th was moved from Hindenburg Kaserne up to Bleidorn Kaserne at the top of the hill not far from Barton Barracks. From what I'm told, Bleidorn has been turned back over to the Germans and is now used as a police training facility. Upon our departure from Hindenburg, an Armored unit moved into the Kaserne, I believe from the 4th Armored Division. I understand that after the Americans vacated Hindenburg much of the post was razed to make room for a large shopping center. Although I support progress, I must admit that I was a little sad at hearing this news since I had made so many friends, and had so many memories, from that post. I also have fond memories of Katterbach in those days. At the time the airfield was used extensively by L-19 Bird Dog artillery spotter planes. Next to the airfield was an open field and in a nearby clump of trees was a bombed out concrete structure that we assumed was an aircraft revetment during the war. There were also huge open concrete in ground structures close to the airfield that had filled with water over the years. Rumor had it that these were the entrances to tunnels that led all the way to Nurnberg. I think, however, that they were what was left of underground fuel depositories from the war. The open field at Katterbach was a popular area for our battalion picnics and other events. There was also a Bundeswehr Kaserne across the highway from the airfield but I don't recall its name. There was a U.S. Air Force metro unit stationed at Katterbach who would come to Hindenburg Kaserne daily to pick up their mail at APO 09177. I remember the Soldiers Lake quite well as I would go out there during the summer months and fish for trout. At the time, the only military presence near the lake was a Hawk missile facility at the top of the hill above the lake. I assume this is the general area where the present Shipton Kaserne is located. My memories of Urlas are not so fond. During that time, Urlas was essentially a munitions depot and ready reserve of vehicles for use if war came. All the battalions in Ansbach took their turn at "Urlas Guard", which had to be just about the worst guard duty one could pull. Four on, eight off, for three full days. It gave the word "boring" a whole new meaning! During my stay in Ansbach I made many German friends, two of which I still have contact with 40 years later. I also very taken by the German culture, music, and their zest for life. After returning from the service I rejoined Pacific Gas and Electric Company in San Francisco and retired as a Warehouse Superintendent after 37 years of service. I now live in the Sierra foothills with my wonderful wife, Donna. In closing, I would very much like to know whatever became of the 2nd Bn 28th FA. Was it moved somewhere else in Germany or disbanded? |
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| I was at Bleidorn Kasserne from April 1967 till November 1969. I was in the 2nd Battalion, 28th
Field Artillery, B Battery. I arrived
there as a Private E-1 and left as a Staff Sergeant E-6 - all on the same
175mm Gun. The 175mm Gun had a 39 foot tube and I had never even seen one
in AIT. What a shock. In 1968, early one cold morning, all the sergeants were taken away (Vietnam) and dawn broke with an E-6 Acting Sergeant Major, E-5 First Sergeant and all E-4 Gun Chiefs. The Battery Commander was a 2LT. Next day, off to Graf for annual Gunnery. Would like to talk to anyone who was there. |
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| (Source: Email from Edward G. Walz, 2nd Bn, 28th FA, Oct 1983-April 1985) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I joined the Army July 1983, a few days after my 17th birthday. I reported to Ft Sill, Oklahoma for cannon crewman training (13B MOS). I graduated in October and was sent to Germany. I reported to the 21st Replacement Detachment in Frankfurt (Rhein-Main Air Base) from there I received orders for the 2nd Battalion, 28th Field Artillery in Ansbach. The 2nd Bn 28th FA was under the 210th Field Artillery Brigade in Herzo Base. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I was stationed with the 2 Bn. 28th F.A. from Oct. 1983- April 1985. I was then ordered to Fort Benning Georgia. I performed the duties as unit armorer and all cannon crewman positions while assigned to the unit. Being away from home, I made some very close friends with the soldiers in the unit. I am proud of my service and proud of the soldiers I have met and worked with. |
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(Source: Email from Mike Tando, 1st Msl, 33rd Arty) |
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I read with interest the "history" of the 1st Missile Battalion, 33rd Arty, but found that the author "understood" that the unit was disbanded in 1958. This is not correct.
Sometime before my arrival, the 210th Arty Group Command and the 1/33rd Arty moved to another Kaserne on the outskirts of Ansbach. The new location was Barton Barracks, about three miles out of town and perched on a plateau that overlooked the valley (and Ansbach). The Kaserne had been a WWII German Signal Unit with a huge ballbearing factory completely underground and directly beneath the Parade Ground at the center of the Kaserne.
I arrived at my new home for 32 months on a snowy night exactly one year before President John Kennedy was assassinated (11-22-62). I had gone through Basic at Fort Ord, California.....then on to Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas for Med Corpsman, Med Specialist, and Surgical Tech training. Our whole unit was to have gone to Fort Benning for Jump Training after graduation.......but that was not to be. The "Missiles of October" was upon us and everything came to a screeching halt. Full Alert for weeks. Finally, everyone's orders were changed, with me being assigned to the 1/33rd Arty for the duration of my active duty.
The only good thing that came out of the Cuban Missile Crisis was that no shipping was allowed in the Atlantic while Castro's Nukes were shipped back to Russia......so I got to fly from New Jersey to Rhein Main AB in Germany. A ten-hour flight instead of a 5-7 day troop ship crossing in the North Atlantic in winter.
I was assigned to the Battalion's Dispensary and soon learned that we were a full field unit. I spent my first Christmas in Germany in the field as we "guarded" the Czech Border.
I'm not sure how it happened but I soon became the Battalion Commander's Driver and was assigned to S-1 in Headquarters Battery. During my tenure I drove for two different Battalion Commanders (light Colonels)...Col. Berthelson (sp) and Col. Mattix (sp). Both were good men.
When one of them found out that my dad was a retired Army Sgt Major (WWII Pacific Theater) and that my Uncle was a recently retired full Colonel, they encouraged me to apply for OCS. I had scored well on the OCTest but was advised by both my dad & uncle not to apply to OCS until I finished school with a decent MOS. Well, the only thing left to do was do the physical and the Oral Board which was held in Nuremberg. I passed all of this and was awaiting the next OCS at Fort Sill, OK when the Army changed the deal. At the time I applied you were only required to complete six months of active duty, then go into the active reserves after you were commissioned. They changed the deal because things were starting to look like we would be getting involved in Vietnam. When I was told that I would be required to spend a minimum of 30 more months after being commissioned I sought advise from my family. I pulled my application to OCS and remained in Ansbach (same assignment) until rotating in June 1965. It was funny........only the C.O. and X.O knew I had applied to OCS. After I backed out, and whenever we were in private, both would refer to me as "Sir" and neither ever looked down on me for choosing to remain an E.M. Looking back, my assignment in southern Germany was a great experience. I was able to travel all over Europe and the Germans still liked us at that time. There were almost four marks to the dollar so our money went far. I found a great girlfriend who I hated to leave. I do think often about some of the guys I was stationed with who went to Vietnam early as "advisors" and didn't make it home.
After getting out.........back to Seattle, work, and the University of Washington, eventually finishing at the University of Puget Sound on the G.I. Bill.
I am now a retired Seattle Police Homicide Detective (30 years) and teach Martial Arts to keep my 60 year old body half-way fit. I am married to Karen who is a CSI. We met at a homicide scene 27 years ago when she was a brand new fingerprint expert and I was a young Homicide Det. Love at first sight. We were married 25 years ago and she raised my two young sons from my previous short-lived marriage. After college, both sons ended up in southern California........which is a great excuse for me to jump on my BMW Motorcycle and visit.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: The 1/33 had four batteries. Each Battery had one Honest John Rocket launcher I believe. H.E. warheads were always attached. The nukes were "close by".
Each Battery could have had more 10T launchers but when we hit the field on an alert, only four went out as far as I can remember. Of course, during training & firing at Graf, only flash-smoke warheads were used. Up until the two "accidents" in 1961 (before I arrived) they had trained with H.E. I think those two incidents are still classified. The other missile unit on our Kaserne was a HAWK Unit (homing all the way killer). They could not train/fire those in Europe, but would have to return to the States twice a year. We were all part of the 210th Artillery Group . . . which also included traditional 105's, 155's, etc. It is my understanding that when the 1/33rd went to Vietnam, the men reverted back to cannon cockers, and went as advisors.
CORRECTIONS: (Source: Tim Richards, HQ 35th FA Group & Btry "A," 2nd How Bn, 37th Arty -- read his email on those units) While surfing thru your site, (which I really found really superb) I found an error in the post on the 1st Msl Bn, 33rd Arty (HJ) (Source: Email from Mike Tando, 1st Msl, 33rd Arty) I read with interest the "history" of the 1st Missile Battalion, 33rd Arty, but found that the author "understood" that the unit was disbanded in 1958. This is not correct. (I also confirmed this) Sometime before my arrival, the 210th Arty Group Command and the 1/33rd Arty moved to another Kaserne on the outskirts of Ansbach. The new location was Barton Barracks, about three miles out of town and perched on a plateau that overlooked the valley (and Ansbach). The Kaserne had been a WWII German Signal Unit with a huge ballbearing factory completely underground and directly beneath the Parade Ground at the center of the Kaserne. |
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| (Source: Email from Hardy Stewart, 1960-62) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
I was in the 33rd from May 1960 to Dec 1962. Spent most of my time in special weapons (nuclear) during that time. We set the record for the closest round to target and also pulled the fastest mission in history of Honest John missiles.
A Battery and HQ Battery were located at Barton Barracks, Ansbach, during the time I was there. I visited it again in 1990 and it now contains mostly communication units. At one time Ansbach was known as "Atomic City" because almost every unit in town had nuclear capability. If you would like more info,contact me. I also have a friend I was stationed with close by and we talk about the 33rd days all the time.
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| 1st Bn, 36th FA (8-in How) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
(Source: Email from Paul Palowitch, 1-36th FA, 1967-69) |
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Was not the 1st Bn/36th Arty a unit of the 210th Group out of Ansbach? 1/36 was an 8" SP unit nuclear. I’m sure I’m right and I know I was in 1/36 because I still have my weapon’s card and other stuff. The 2/28 also sounds familiar as I think I had a friend from Orlando as an officer in the same position as I. I was first assigned as Executive Officer of B Btry (and every other assignment because there were only two officers per battery) in May 1967. In 1968 - 69 I was A Btry Commanding Officer as a 1LT. A battery was the first I knew of that scored 100% in the three week long live firing tests at Graffenweir. 1/36 was in Ulm when I joined the unit and later moved to Augsburg where it was when I took an European out and ended my military service. Later I worked as a civilian on Pershing 1A back in Ulm and stayed there until Dec 1973. I would like to know more about 210th. Could you put out a request for persons (at that time all males) for anyone in 1/36 batteries? I am proud of my service. Never stayed in touch, cause that was not manly or whatever. I love the military. My Son, Daughter-in-law, Dad, all my three brothers, all my uncles and grandfather in England (he had all girls) served for their country. I have worked in the defense industry for the past 25 years. And pray every day for the troops everywhere. God bless them. |
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(Source: Email from Grant Stanley, 1-36th FA, 1967-68) |
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I came to C Btry, 1st Bn, 36th Arty in May of 1967. It was at Wiley Barracks in Neu Ulm. I believe the battalion moved there in 1965 or early 1966 from Crailsheim. We moved to Augsburg in June or July of 1968, Panzer Kaserne, I beleive. I rotated back home in Nov. 1968 while the rest of unit was in Graf. Well, I've found a guy who was in one of the other batteriws during most of the time I was there. We don't remember each other, but knew some of the same people. My folks saved every letter I wrote home. I looked at some of them yesterday to get some info for him. 1/36 arty moved from Wiley Barracks to Reese Barracks in Augsburg on Aug. 12, 1968. We left Neu Ulm at 8 am on the 12th and arrived at Augsburg around 9:30am |
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(Source: Email from John Kalb) |
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1st Battalion, 36th Artillery was located at Wiley Barracks, Neu Ulm, in 1967, moving there from Erlangen in approximately 1966. It moved to Reese Kaserne, Augsburg, in August 1968. It was part of the 210th Artillery Group, headquartered in Ansbach, commanded by Col. Spencer Hockaday, aka, "the Hawk". The 5/37th was in Dachau, and the other unit was in Ansbach, don't remember the unit's designation. I was in the 1/36th from July 1967 to April 1969. |
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(Source: Email from Don Wastler) |
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| 3rd Gun Bn, 39th Artillery (280mm) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
 3rd Battalion, 39th Artillery DI |
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(Email from Paul Palowitch, 1-36th FA, 1963-65 was moved to the Aviation Section) |
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(Source: Email from Robert E. Richards, 3rd Gun Bn, 39th Arty) |
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Additional Information The difference between "Gun" (Cannon) and "Howitzer" (IE 155mm and 8" howitzer vs 175mm Gun.) -- Gun = high velocity, flat trajectory, long range, very inaccurate at distance. Examples being naval guns 5'/54,the battleship 16'/50 and the M-107, 175mm gun. Howitzer = medium velocity, medium trajectory, capable of both low and high angle fire, medium range, very accurate. Examples: the M101/M102 105mm, any of the current 155mm and the M-110 8" howitzer. Gun = high velocity, flat trajectory, long range, very inaccurate at distance. examples being naval guns 5'/54,the battleship 16'/50 and the M-107, 175mm gun. Howitzer = medium velocity, medium trajectory, capable of both low and high angle fire, medium range, very accurate. Examples , the M101/M102 105mm, any of the current 155mm and the M-110 8" howitzer. Mortar= Low velocity, high angle, short range. inaccurate Another thought. The big 280mm Gun and transporters (T-10) had limits where we could set it up to fire. There were only two or three firing positions at Grafenwohr, which were off the reservation where we could set up. Assigned to 3/39 was a tractor trailer with flatbed, and a Caterpillar D7 track bulldozer, that was used when the gun got stuck in the mud or snow, to tow it up to solid ground. It had a hefty winch and tow cable assembly. The off reservation sites were also used for the Honest John Rocket unit, 1st MSL Bn, 33rd Arty, which was located in Ansbach at Barton Bks, I believe. I spent a short tour with them as Bn. Communications Officer also, before returning back to the States. |
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(Source: STATION LIST 30 Sept 1963) |
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| 1st Bn, 75th Artillery (8-in How) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
 1st Battalion, 75th Field Artillery DI |
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(Source: Email from William E. Serchak, 1st How Bn, 75 Arty, 1959-61) |
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I served in the 1/75 Arty, 210th Group for 1959-61. Presently I am in contact with several other members of that unit from that time frame and we are exchanging stories and photos about our service there. While researching Ansbach and the 210th Group but especially the 1/75 Arty (then having the M55 8" SP Howitzers), I find there is very little contained in the material about us. I have a lot of information and pictures from that period to share so as to make the story of the 1/75 more accurate and complete... I just missed the reunion of the 2/28th in Columbia, MD last fall. I would have liked to be there. Often thought of a reunion of the 1/75th alumnae but the best I can do is have a small group of us exchanging war stories and pics on the internet, so far, with a possible small get-together this coming fall. From reading about Ansbach and the various military units there in the 210th Group, it seems clear that the 1/75th with its obsolescent and very catankerous, hard to maintain M55 Howitzers was just an interim member of the 210th Group. Understand those M55 tracks eventually were turned over to the Budeswehr. In the 1/75th, we had essentially five batteries: Hq, Service, A, B, & C ... As a nuclear capable unit our alert posture was very stringent -- no off duty travel beyond 2 hours, field gear always packed & ready to go, etc. We had monthly alerts, usually at 0-dark-hundred in the middle of the week and would move to the Urlas (local training) area outside town for a few hours, then back to Hindenburg to clean up, eat breakfast, and start the training day. Annual Battery and Battalion tests were held at Graf and it was always a major operation to load those 50-ton tracks on German rail cars for the move to & back from Grafenwohr. There were 4 M55's per battery 12 in the battalion) plus a SWEL (Special Weapons) van that carried our 8" nukes and training nuke rounds. Re-supply and maintenance of anything nuclear was at Heilbronn Depot. Always very unwieldly security convoys to accompany any moves of the nukes. Looking back, it always amazes me to think that we had those nukes in our battery area all the time, lightly guarded and with no PAL protection to prevent unauthorized use. There were several SW tests each year -- I was "A" Battery's SW Assembly Team Chief -- from the DA-IG team, from 7th Corps, and from Sandia Base. On more than one occasion, we used the real nukes for the assembly & disassembly tests...scary, now that I think about it! Later in my career I studied Physics at Tulane and my secondary MOS was Atomic Energy which provided three tours utilizing that Physics degree --Prefix 5 instructor at the (NWED) Tactics & Combined Dept, Ft Sill; Defense Atomic Support Agency in Washington (Weapons Safety); and Dept of Energy, Military Applications, Germantown, MD (Army Nuclear Warhead Development including new 155mm, 8", Lance, and Pershing warheads)... These were alternate assignments to the regular artillery tours with 1/75th in Ansbach; Korea (1/21st FA Bn, 1st Cav in 1964-65 just before it converted to 1st Cav (Airmobile) and deployed to RVN; then 2/19 Bn, First Air Cav in RVN in 1967-68; and finally command of the 3/319th FA Bn, 101st Abn Division at Ft Campbell 1976-77 which tour included a REFORGER back to Germany. |
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